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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Type 1 Deck Advice => Topic started by: Isildur on April 12, 2009, 07:45:35 PM
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so this is IT this is a deck that I was planing on making as a 70 card deck but turned into this IT. I would like it to be a type 1 deck I just dont know what to do with IT... Any help is welcome...
Deck Name: IT!
Cards in deck: 116
Lost Souls: 16
Lost Soul (*/4)
Lost Soul (1st round)
Lost Soul (Anti Angel)
Lost Soul (anti-burial)
Lost Soul (anti-ignore)
Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
Lost Soul (demon discard)
Lost Soul (discarder)
Lost Soul (N.T. only)
Lost Soul (punisher)
Lost Soul (revealer)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (site guard)
Lost Soul (Speed Bump)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lamb Dominants: 2
Angel of the Lord
Son of God
Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
Burial
Christian Martyr
Destruction of Nehushtan
Falling Away
Fortresses: 7
Demonic Stronghold
Judge's Seat
Storehouse
Tartaros
The Pit
The Trap of the Devil
Zerubbabel's Temple
Multi-Color Sites: 2
Dragon Raid
The Ends of the Earth
Artifacts: 7
Burial Shroud
Chariot of Fire
Chariot of Fire
Gifts of the Magi
Golden Calf
Holy of Holies
Windows of Narrow Light
White Covenant Cards: 1
Confusion of Mind (Pale Green)
Red Covenant Cards: 1
I am Grace
Gold Covenant Cards: 3
Covenant with Moses
Covenant with Moses
Covenant with Moses
Blue Covenant Cards: 3
Covenant of Noah
Covenant of Noah
Covenant of Noah
Multi-Color Heroes: 3
Joiada, Son of Eliashib (Teal)
Seeker of the Lost
Soldier of God
Gold Heroes: 4
Deborah
Moses
Simeon
Zaccheus
Green Heroes: 1
Hur
Blue Heroes: 4
Bartholomew (Nathaniel)
Claudia
Ehud
Eli the Priest
Purple Heroes: 3
Parmenas
Saint of Virtue
Stephen
Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 4
Feast of Trumpets
Pentecost
Philosophy
Preaching the Truth
Blue Hero Enhancements: 2
Abraham's Servant to Ur
Abraham's Servant to Ur
Purple Hero Enhancements: 4
Authority of Christ
Authority of Christ
Reach of Desperation
Reach of Desperation
Gold Evil Characters: 3
Obsidian Minion (1)
Obsidian Minion (2)
Obsidian Minion (3)
Black Evil Characters: 4
Morg
Obsidian Minion (5)
Philistine Priests
Simon the Magician
Gray Evil Characters: 11
Elymas (Bar-Jesus) the Sorcerer
Legion
Legion
Legion
Legion
Legion
Legion
Legion
Legion
Obsidian Minion (4)
Shadow
Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 4
Battering Ram
Lurking
Lying Unto God
Torment
Gold Evil Enhancements: 7
Denial of Christ
Mission Deviation
Moses kills Egyptian
Outnumbered
Swift Horses
Take as a Slave
Troops Discharged
Black Evil Enhancements: 7
Babel
Denying Blame
Devourer
Evil Arises
Net
Pushed Back
Satan Released
Gray Evil Enhancements: 8
Balaam's Disobedience
Balaam's Disobedience
Deadly Snare
Deadly Snare
Demonic Snare
Demonic Snare
Snare
Snare
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Yes! The Rise of X-Factor has begun!!!!
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that is nice! i was thinking about making a demon deck, but this way overpowers it! good luck with it, though u should use a complainer, and an admiral and a fallen angel....
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Yeah I really need to tweak it more.... Ill prolly have a more usable version up by tommrow.
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If it's a T1 deck, why do you have Cov w/Moses and Cov of Noah both x3?
I like this quite a bit.
Have you thought about bumping it up to 150 to gain the third copy of individual cards where needed?
If you did that, you would probably want to add another Joiada or two and a second Z's temple. I would also seriously consider adding False Peace x3
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Woops on the Cov's hmm 150 seems very tempting... Though idk how im going to draw fast enough.
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Yes! The Rise of X-Factor has begun!!!!
And again I say: YES!
I like this quite a bit.
Have you thought about bumping it up to 150 to gain the third copy of individual cards where needed?
It has begun!!!! muahahh hahha They laughed at me at the academy! muahahahhaa!
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What is the X factor?
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Woops on the Cov's hmm 150 seems very tempting... Though idk how im going to draw fast enough.
That is the trick. Now, I'm just spit balling here--and I'm not a Karazy Vicepresident--but the following seems to make sense to me...
The first thing to do would be to maximize your chance of getting Z's Temple, Joiada, and Feast of Trumpets/Pentecost out. If you can do that, you will draw at double speed. If you manage to get Gifts with Trumpets you are at triple speed. That would argue for more Zaccheus and maybe an I Am Creator or two. I think you are stuck with False Peace for retrieving a feast, however.
On offense you want something that would be "unstoppable" after your opponent decks out. (Say using Chemosh to make Elon 5/1, setting him aside with The Sabbath, and then have him make a RA and play Samson's Sacrifice when blocked.) The idea is that you want to have something able to blow up the defense so your heroes can walk in for free on subsequent attempts. You don't want to get stuck waiting for a second copy of an enhancement to turn up.
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What is the X factor?
Decks bigger than usual, to take advantage of the multiple deck building rules.
I started building decks like that because "they" said it couldn't be done.
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I started building decks like that because "they" said it couldn't be done.
Same here
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Update made to deck this is the full 150 any help would be reciecved also any one know what kinda souls to use in this deck?
Cards in deck: 150
Lost Souls: 21
Lost Soul (1st round)
Lost Soul (1st round)
Lost Soul (anti-burial)
Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
Lost Soul (demon discard)
Lost Soul (demon discard)
Lost Soul (discarder)
Lost Soul (discarder)
Lost Soul (female only)
Lost Soul (female only)
Lost Soul (N.T. only)
Lost Soul (N.T. only)
Lost Soul (revealer)
Lost Soul (revealer)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (site guard)
Lost Soul (site guard)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lamb Dominants: 2
Angel of the Lord
Son of God
Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
Burial
Christian Martyr
Destruction of Nehushtan
Falling Away
Fortresses: 6
Demonic Stronghold
Storehouse
Tartaros
The Pit
The Trap of the Devil
Zerubbabel's Temple
Multi-Color Sites: 1
Dragon Raid
Artifacts: 6
Altar of Incense
Burial Shroud
Chariot of Fire
Gifts of the Magi
Holy of Holies
Priestly Crown
White Covenant Cards: 1
Confusion of Mind (Pale Green)
Red Covenant Cards: 1
I am Creator
Multi-Color Heroes: 5
Joiada, Son of Eliashib (Teal)
Joiada, Son of Eliashib (Teal)
Joiada, Son of Eliashib (Teal)
Phinehas, son of Eleazar (Teal)
Phinehas, son of Eleazar (Teal)
Gold Heroes: 3
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Green Heroes: 5
Haggai
Haggai
Hur
Hur
Hur
Blue Heroes: 2
Eli the Priest
Eli the Priest
Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 10
Burning Incense (Teal)
Burning Incense (Teal)
Feast of Trumpets
Filling Zerubbabel's Temple (Teal)
Filling Zerubbabel's Temple (Teal)
Pentecost
Philosophy
Zeal for the Lord (Teal)
Zeal for the Lord (Teal)
Zeal for the Lord (Teal)
Gold Evil Characters: 9
Obsidian Minion (1)
Obsidian Minion (1)
Obsidian Minion (1)
Obsidian Minion (2)
Obsidian Minion (2)
Obsidian Minion (2)
Obsidian Minion (3)
Obsidian Minion (3)
Obsidian Minion (3)
Black Evil Characters: 9
Morg
Morg
Morg
Obsidian Minion (5)
Obsidian Minion (5)
Obsidian Minion (5)
Simon the Magician
Simon the Magician
Simon the Magician
Gray Evil Characters: 20
Elymas (Bar-Jesus) the Sorcerer
Elymas (Bar-Jesus) the Sorcerer
Legion
Legion
Legion
Legion
Legion
Legion
Legion
Legion
Legion
Legion
Legion
Legion
Obsidian Minion (4)
Obsidian Minion (4)
Obsidian Minion (4)
Shadow
Shadow
Shadow
Brown Evil Characters: 2
Uzzah
Uzzah
Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 4
Battering Ram
Lurking
Lying Unto God
Torment
Gold Evil Enhancements: 8
Moses kills Egyptian
Moses kills Egyptian
Outnumbered
Outnumbered
Outnumbered
Swift Horses
Swift Horses
Swift Horses
Black Evil Enhancements: 13
Babel
Babel
Babel
Devourer
Devourer
Evil Arises
Evil Arises
Intent to Kill
Intent to Kill
Pushed Back
Pushed Back
Worship of Milcom
Worship of Milcom
Gray Evil Enhancements: 15
Balaam's Disobedience
Balaam's Disobedience
Deadly Snare
Deadly Snare
Deluge of Rain
Deluge of Rain
Demonic Snare
Demonic Snare
Demonic Snare
Namaan's Chariot and Horses
Namaan's Chariot and Horses
Namaan's Chariot and Horses
Snare
Snare
Snare
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1. Lost Soul Selection...
Demon Discarder x3
NT Only x3
Female Only x3
Wanderer x3
Shame x3
Can't be Prevented x3
Shuffler x3
There's always strength in simplicity.
2. Are Naaman's C & H and Swift Horses in there just for the ITB?
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Sorry for the double post, but here is a screen snapshot of IT! versus my 105 card deck BigBoy
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg18.imageshack.us%2Fimg18%2F522%2Fisildurvmjb.gif&hash=a710ce73f0c1d1053328bb937e55229074e32bfd)
IT! was on top. Note the fine collection of ECs on the top and bottom left just waiting to be used, and the widespread collection of enhancements on the middle right that is Isildur's Storehouse. The upside cards are the our artifact piles.
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a lovely mess. 12 Legions! :o :amen:
I have temporarily immortalized this on D3's "Just a thought before you go" feature:
http://home.earthlink.net/~metalpsalm/RedemptionD3.tkJustaThoughtBeforeYouGo.html (http://home.earthlink.net/~metalpsalm/RedemptionD3.tkJustaThoughtBeforeYouGo.html)
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I love the look of this deck, but I'm wondering how effective mass evil banding is. I guess it could work against a lot of offenses, but there are a good number of widely-used cards that could really cripple this strategy (AoC promo comes to mind). Do you find that it is able to stop enough of those cards to beat most offenses?
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A child is born might also be a problem for this deck as well.
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A child is born might also be a problem for this deck as well.
It would be if anybody played A Child is Born. :D
Forget about all the possible counters. Just looking at all those Legion starting me in the face gave me a case of the heebie jeebies.
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A child is born might also be a problem for this deck as well.
It would be if anybody played A Child is Born. :D
Forget about all the possible counters. Just looking at all those Legion starting me in the face gave me a case of the heebie jeebies.
Same here...The whole army of demon eyes; it sends a tingle down your spine.
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I know, Legions are completely underrated. Yes, you may run into the tragic SoG blast.... but chances are you'll draw at least one or two off the bat. Nothing more satisfying then watching someone RA with captian of the host on turn one with a big grin on their face, only to watch it melt away as you block with two legions... even if they HAVE SoG, that clause is negated then. ;D