Author Topic: Herolite Sadducee Site Lockout (Read 3873 times)

BubbleBoy · « **on:** July 19, 2009, 03:48:57 PM »

Yes, I know it sounds strange, and yes, I should probably wait for TxP to come out before I brew up any more deck ideas, but I just couldn't wait, and I think this would work pretty well. ...

56 cards:

Offense
~~Ahimaaz~~
Zebulun
  The Body of Christ
  Journey to Egypt

Defense
Alexander
Captain of the Temple Guard
High Priest Annas
High Priest Ananias
High Priest Caiaphas
Lot's Wife
Sadducees x2
The Twelve-Fingered Giant
  Danites Attack
  ~~Devourer~~
  ~~False Witnesses~~
  Foolish Advice
  ~~High Priest's Plot~~
  Joseph in Prison
  Net
  Pride of Simon
  Wrath of Satan
  Just a Hireling

Antiochus Epiphanes IV
The Winged Leopard

Artifacts/Curses/Covenants
Asherah Pole
Book of the Covenant
Burial Shroud
Lampstand of the Sanctuary
Thirty Pieces of Silver
Unholy Writ
Urim and Thummim

Unknown Nation
Confusion of Mind
Captured Ark

I Am Healing
Covenant of Palestine

Fortresses/Site
High Priest's Palace
~~Kerith Ravine~~
The Tabernacle

Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylon x3
Jerusalem
Pergamum
Hormah

Dominants
AotL
~~GoYS~~
NJ
SoG

Burial
CM
DoN
FA

Lost Souls
Site Doubler
Anti-Ignore
2-Liner
Female
Wanderer
Site Remove
NT

The Guardian · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2009, 02:44:26 AM »

Don't you need Lampstand for a deck like this so they don't DoN your I am Healing?

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2009, 02:51:31 AM »

Eh, he has Chariots and a healing enhancement as back up. But I do think that 9 EC's is to few.

Red · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2009, 08:39:00 AM »

up it to 70 cards

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #4 on:** July 20, 2009, 09:56:29 AM »

Quote from: The Guardian on July 20, 2009, 02:44:26 AM

Don't you need Lampstand for a deck like this so they don't DoN your I am Healing?

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on July 20, 2009, 02:51:31 AM

Eh, he has Chariots and a healing enhancement as back up. But I do think that 9 EC's is to few.

I actually don't have Chariots because shuffling back after discard causes the hero to lose his Journey'dness. (Plus I only have two heroes, so it would be difficult to actually get a RA if any of my guys die.) I never even thought of putting in Tabernacle + Lampstand, but that could really, really benefit me now that I think about it. I could probably take out Guardian for one card out and...what else?

As to those who suggest bumping this deck up, NO! In fact, If I could, I would take this down to 50 cards. You see, the purpose of this deck is to deck out as fast as possible and get rid of my hand so that I can start walking in with Zebulun unstoppably. I would also like to use as few enhancements as possible because they will simply have to be discarded in the end for Zebulun to be effective.

Personally, I would like to take out some of the enhancements and put in some Greeks and Antiochus to reduce hand clog, but all the enhancements I have are so nice. ...

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #5 on:** July 20, 2009, 10:50:28 AM »

How do you get around Unholy Writ if they have two artifacts active, which keeps Captured Ark from stopping Writ?

Kirk

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #6 on:** July 20, 2009, 11:25:52 AM »

Right. ...Do you think I need Blue Tassels?

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #7 on:** July 20, 2009, 11:40:59 AM »

Quote from: BubbleBoy on July 20, 2009, 11:25:52 AM

Right. ...Do you think I need Blue Tassels?

covenant of Palastine works better...

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #8 on:** July 20, 2009, 12:42:35 PM »

It probably wouldn't make a big difference really; the most important thing is what to take out for it.

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #9 on:** July 20, 2009, 12:50:42 PM »

Actually it makes a difference. The covenant is a prevent, Blue Tassels is a protect. So even with Covenant of Palestine, King Zed + Dungeon still works.

Kirk

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #10 on:** July 20, 2009, 01:22:38 PM »

It won't matter much in this deck, though, because I will probably have no hand when I start using Zebby anyway.

I personally think Tassels is a better choice. What should I take out though?

juhnkect · « **Reply #11 on:** July 20, 2009, 01:31:04 PM »

i would probably throw in HT. I know that by the time you're making your attacks ur opponent will probably have LS drawn... but you can discard HT to discard CoM, which frees up ur DoN, Or AotL.

The Guardian · « **Reply #12 on:** July 20, 2009, 01:47:31 PM »

Theoretically, AotL is pointless so he can use that to ditch CoM.

juhnkect · « **Reply #13 on:** July 20, 2009, 01:57:51 PM »

I would hold on to AoTL incase they manage to block with a */1 or something. unless you aren't going to attack until your hand is gone.

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #14 on:** July 20, 2009, 02:08:22 PM »

Its always a toss up. If you drop to 0 cards, sure they can't block, but then they play CM and next turn flip up CoM, to which you have no enhancements/dominants to d/c for it. In that case, you better hope you didn't use DoN early in the game, as Captured Ark only stalls it for two turns, and even then, they can dominant block you two turns to get it back for good for the lockdown.

Kirk

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #15 on:** July 20, 2009, 05:35:20 PM »

Quote from: Captain Kirk on July 20, 2009, 12:50:42 PM

Actually it makes a difference. The covenant is a prevent, Blue Tassels is a protect. So even with Covenant of Palestine, King Zed + Dungeon still works.

Kirk

but you get them back, that way you don't need to have Blue Tassels constantly active.

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #16 on:** July 20, 2009, 05:52:55 PM »

You risk the Burial/Son of God on the captured Zebulun if you don't have it active though when the capture happens.

Kirk

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #17 on:** July 20, 2009, 07:48:54 PM »

It's true that hero negating artifacts are a very big problem for this deck; I was considering putting an art killer in my defense, but I hoped it wouldn't bee too serious a problem, especially since I can use AotL to get rid of CoM with little consequence (and very few people I know use Golden Calf). As for the Unholy Writ problem, I'm starting to think Covenant of Palestine is the best choice, because I use some CBN captures.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #18 on:** July 21, 2009, 02:22:22 PM »

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I'm starting to think Covenant of Palestine is the best choice, because I use some CBN captures.

It's also better because you can place it and I am Healing onto Book of the Covenant for all around protection.

Also without a Chariots or I am Patience I'm not really sure what Ahimazz is doing in the deck.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #19 on:** July 21, 2009, 03:56:45 PM »

Well I don't have BotC in here, but maybe it could be nice if I used Cov-O-Palestine. Ahimaaz is in there mainly for extra hand-peeking, 'cause it's just too much fun.

~~Unholy Writ~~ Urim and Thummim is probably enough, but...I love Ahimaaz.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #20 on:** July 22, 2009, 11:11:38 AM »

Quote from: BubbleBoy on July 21, 2009, 03:56:45 PM

Well I don't have BotC in here, but maybe it could be nice if I used Cov-O-Palestine. Ahimaaz is in there mainly for extra hand-peeking, 'cause it's just too much fun. Unholy Writ is probably enough, but...I love Ahimaaz.

take out Ahimaaz and Chariot and Kerith though, and put in Cov of Pale and Book, and you have another spot for some evil!

(you do use Kerith, right?)

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #21 on:** July 22, 2009, 11:48:54 AM »

Okay, I took your advice. (BTW, I never had Chariot in there)

I'm thinking now that I have Lampstand, maybe I should get rid of DoN or FA. ...Would that be completely insane?

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #22 on:** July 22, 2009, 12:50:51 PM »

Keep DoN.

Kirk

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #23 on:** July 22, 2009, 05:13:14 PM »

You know, I was just thinking...if someone has 7 Lost Souls, and they bury one and play SoG and NJ on two others, and then two of the remaining four are the Female and the NT...I'm kind of done for unless I use the Wanderer, which I might not have by the time I start to use Zebulun. Now that I have BotC, however, might it be a good decision to put in I Am Salvation?

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #24 on:** July 23, 2009, 12:15:44 PM »

I Am Salvation is a great card, I would have lost two games at regionals without it. Also, the Hopper isn't a bad idea either.

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