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Cards in deck: 63

LSs 8
Site-Doubler
Revealer
3-liner
Shuffles NT LS
Hand Discard
Anti-burial
Female only
Anti-Angel


Doms 9
SoG
AoTL
NJ
GoYS
Grapes
DoN
CM
Burial
FA


Arts/Covs/Curses 7
Plagued with Diseases
I am Redemption
Davie's Harp
Writ
Lampy
I am Healing
WoNL

Sites 5
DR
Samaria x4

Forts 4
Goshen
Gates of Jerusalem
Judges Seat
Solomon's Temple

Heroes 7
Samuel
Zaccheus   
Samson
Jair
Gideon
Angel under the Oak
Angel with a Secret Name

GEs 9
Ehud's Dagger
Convincing Miracle
Sword against Sword
Battle Prayer
Shibboleth
Debs Directive
Sams Edict
BF

ECs 12
Haman
Persian Presidents
Jezebel
King Ahab
King Jehoash
King Omri
King Jeroboam
King Nabab
Ammy's Slave
Uzzah
Abimelech
King Saul

EEs 10
IoJ
Plot
Wickedness of the Tenants
Land Purchase
Shimei's Malicious Curse
Stiff-Necked
Breaking Jerusalem's Wall
Korah's Rebellion
Gib Trick
Zeleophead's Sin

I got the idea of this deck from http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/complete-decks/2010-nationals-t1-2p-3rd-place/
I'm basically trying to make pick off a few ECs with Seat, destroy opponent's offense with my defense, and then walk in with unstoppable judges. I've edited out the black, so I can focus on the brown. I've also bumped it up to 63 with a little more offense and haman & Persian Presidents. This is completely untested. I also want something that might get me some freebies early: Moses or CoTH?

Any thoughts?

If you want to destroy your opponents D then you definently need Woman as Snares.

WoS might be nice, but I don't have any PG EEs, so I don't know if that would be worth it. Also, what would take out? 

I think there are stronger offenses for Herolite. Maybe try Isaiah or tiny Genesis (Zeb + Joseph + Rachel + Judah).

Yeah, maybe, but I think this is will be more unexpected and I'll get a better element of surprise than with Prophets or Genesis 

Element of surprise won't mean much in my opinion. Because most Sam decks have a lot from Judges, Judges as a whole remain firmly in the meta, and as such, are targeted easily by anti-meta decks. Now admittedly, both Isaiah (which is different from Prophets) and Genesis are also affected by the same cards, but they're also overall, stronger.

Thanks for the suggestions, but I think I'll try this concept out before I give up on it and do something else. I didn't make this to be my main deck, but I wanted to try a herolite offense that was kind of different. 

Shibileth would be good for good enhancements.

I don't see the defense "destroying" your opponents offense.  They will get past with CBN's.

I would try to put woman as snares in there even if you just have her. You could add her and someone else and put in Death of unrighteous, Confusion of maybe forgotten History.

I wouldn't really consider the current version of the deck as herolite. You are going to have major problems with any sort of deck that has speed in it. Your deck has 63 cards, no speed and no way of slowing down speed decks. I would add in at least 2 anti-speed artifacts (Hezzy's Ring, Cov. w/ Death or Rain Becomes Dust). I would also put in the FBTN lost soul since all your heroes are OT and male. Samuel needs to be in here also.

Why would you put Sam in? He does not have King Saul or David?

yeah why Sam? 

Why not Sam? He is another Judge with low numbers, negates play abilities, Sam's Edict is CBN off him, can band to your opponent's I Samuel heroes and can be a +3 card advantage if you add the evil King Saul. I would also put in Ehud's Dagger.

and the fbtn ls is the one negates all other Lost soul abilities right? How would that help?

It negates your opponet's souls, such as Female and NT only.

Moses and FbtN LS are musts for any Judges offense.

It allows access to the NT/Women only LS.