Author Topic: Assyria/TGTeal UPDATED (Read 2607 times)

Minister Polarius · « **on:** October 22, 2009, 05:37:56 PM »

56 Card Version

Cards in deck: 56
Lost Souls: 7
   Lost Soul (discarder)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 3
   Angel of the Lord
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 2
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan

Fortresses: 4
   Assyrian Camp
   Raiders' Camp
   The Garden Tomb
   Zerubbabel's Temple

Artifacts: 5
   Gifts of the Magi
   Hidden Treasures
   Lampstand of the Sanctuary
   Magic Charms
   Temple Veil

Multi-Color Heroes: 3
   Jeremiah (Green/Teal)
   Joiada, Son of Eliashib (Teal)
   Joshua the High Priest (Teal)

White Heroes: 4
   Ittai
   Mary the Mother of James
   Salome
   Susanna

Green Heroes: 5
   Haggai
   Hur
   Joanna
   Micah
   Midwives

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 4
   Burning Incense (Teal)
   Pentecost
   Spiritual Warfare
   Zeal for the Lord (Teal)

White Hero Enhancements: 2
   Consider the Lilies
   'He Is Risen'

Green Hero Enhancements: 3
   Plague of Frogs
   Sword of the Lord
   Two Bears

Pale Green Evil Characters: 6
   Assyrian Archer
   Enchanter
   King Asnappar
   Prince of this World
   The Tartan
   Women as Snares

Pale Green Evil Enhancements: 7
   Achan's Sin
   Captured by Assyria
   Confusion
   Death of Unrighteous
   Forgotten History
   Infectious Diseases
   Two Thousand Horses

xCaLeBx · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2009, 05:41:18 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on October 22, 2009, 05:37:56 PM

I just threw this deck together and I think it could do well. I'd like to streamline it into 56, though.

Cards in deck: 63
Lost Souls: 8
   Lost Soul (discarder)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only) (out)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (shame)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 3
   Angel of the Lord
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 3
   Burial (out)
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan

Fortresses: 4
   Assyrian Camp
   Raiders' Camp
   The Garden Tomb
   Zerubbabel's Temple

Artifacts: 6
   Assyria's Tribute (out)
   Gifts of the Magi
   Hidden Treasures
   Lampstand of the Sanctuary
   Magic Charms
   Temple Veil

Multi-Color Heroes: 4
   Jeremiah (Green/Teal)
   Joiada, Son of Eliashib (Teal)
   Joshua the High Priest (Teal)
   Zechariah (green/teal)

White Heroes: 4
   Ittai (out)
   Mary the Mother of James
   Salome
   Susanna

Green Heroes: 5
   Haggai
   Hur
   Joanna
   Micah
   Midwives (out)

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 4
   Burning Incense (Teal)
   Pentecost
   Spiritual Warfare
   Zeal for the Lord (Teal)

White Hero Enhancements: 3
   Consider the Lilies
   'He Is Risen'
   No Need for Spices

Green Hero Enhancements: 3
   Plague of Frogs
   Sword of the Lord
   Two Bears

Pale Green Evil Characters: 7
   Assyrian Archer
   Enchanter
   King Asnappar
   Prince of this World
   The Assyrian Spoilers
   The Tartan
   Women as Snares

Pale Green Evil Enhancements: 8
   Achan's Sin
   Assyria Conquers Israel (out)
   Captured by Assyria
   Confusion
   Death of Unrighteous
   Forgotten History
   Infectious Diseases (out)
   Two Thousand Horses

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2009, 06:55:14 PM »

At first I thought you just quoted the whole thing.

I don't really understand your suggestions. Taking out the self-capture will severely weaken the reliability factor of this deck, and Midwives enables me to not run CoF. Infectious Diseases is a battle-winner that there's no protection for and potentially takes the Hero out permanently. I could see taking out Assyria Conquers and Assyria's Tribute, as well as Burial, but idk about the others.

xCaLeBx · « **Reply #3 on:** October 23, 2009, 02:06:12 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on October 22, 2009, 06:55:14 PM

At first I thought you just quoted the whole thing.

I don't really understand your suggestions. Taking out the self-capture will severely weaken the reliability factor of this deck, and Midwives enables me to not run CoF. Infectious Diseases is a battle-winner that there's no protection for and potentially takes the Hero out permanently. I could see taking out Assyria Conquers and Assyria's Tribute, as well as Burial, but idk about the others.

Just saying what I'd do. good luck with it

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #4 on:** October 25, 2009, 02:18:31 PM »

Anybody? Anybody?

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #5 on:** October 25, 2009, 05:06:58 PM »

Here's my suggestions:

Out:
Burial (stopped by LotS anyway)
Raider's Camp (too much protection from capture)
Magic Charms (doesn't work with RC anyway)
Enchanter (don't need without Magic Charms)
Women as Snares (opp's defense won't be a problem)
Captured by Assyria (too much protection from capture)
Ittai
Sword of the Lord
Assyria Conquers Israel
Infectious Diseases
one LS

In:
Grapes of Wrath (it just rocks)
King Sargon (to get A-Camp)
Unknown Nation (to get an EC)
The Amelekite's Slave (to get an EC & create a LS)

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #6 on:** October 26, 2009, 12:43:37 AM »

i like astrologers with confusion and desecrate the temple ouch

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #7 on:** October 26, 2009, 12:44:18 AM »

I get where you're coming from, but here are why I need more convincing.

Grapes of Wrath is just a judgment thing for me. I've never found it all that useful.

There's little to no protection from self-capture. Two of my EC's will win the battle just by blocking if I have RC and the matching Hero.

Enchanter is just great any way as a battle-winning EC that doesn't need initiative.

The Tartan negates the most popular form of Capture protection, leaving me free to do so.

Captured by Assyria can capture Evil Characters as well, making TGT more potent.

Sword of the Lord+Hidden Treasures is one of the best combinations in the game.

Again, infectious diseases is a battle-winner against which there is no protection. For someone discouraging me capturing, I find it odd that you encourage taking out such a hoss card.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #8 on:** October 26, 2009, 12:57:54 AM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on October 26, 2009, 12:44:18 AM

Grapes of Wrath is just a judgment thing for me. I've never found it all that useful.

Try it, you'll like it.

Quote from: Minister Polarius on October 26, 2009, 12:44:18 AM

There's little to no protection from self-capture.

Yes, but I've never liked it. You don't hurt their offense at all, you lose an EC, and just stall for 1 turn. And that's assuming Raider's Camp has come out already.

Quote from: Minister Polarius on October 26, 2009, 12:44:18 AM

The Tartan negates the most popular form of Capture protection, leaving me free to do so.

True, but Captured by Assyria will cause hand clog waiting for him to show up.

Quote from: Minister Polarius on October 26, 2009, 12:44:18 AM

Captured by Assyria can capture Evil Characters as well, making TGT more potent.

Again, your opp's defense won't be a problem anyway.

Quote from: Minister Polarius on October 26, 2009, 12:44:18 AM

Sword of the Lord+Hidden Treasures is one of the best combinations in the game.

Maybe, but it's another enhancement combo you have to wait to get together. I really hate hand clog.

Quote from: Minister Polarius on October 26, 2009, 12:44:18 AM

Again, infectious diseases is a battle-winner against which there is no protection. For someone discouraging me capturing, I find it odd that you encourage taking out such a hoss card.

This is another card that only stalls for 1 turn, and doesn't really hurt their offense.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #9 on:** October 26, 2009, 01:11:35 AM »

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Try it, you'll like it.

I have tried it. I find it marginally useful sometimes, but it's usually still in my hand at the end of the game if I win, and if I lose then it obviously didn't help.

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Yes, but I've never liked it. You don't hurt their offense at all, you lose an EC, and just stall for 1 turn. And that's assuming Raider's Camp has come out already.

Actually, that's not true of self-capture characters. Both Asnappar and The Tartan capture one of my own Heroes to stuff Raider's Camp. They're then free to win the battle on their own merits, and in either case it's an answer to an AotL or a CBN battle-winner.

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True, but Captured by Assyria will cause hand clog waiting for him to show up.

That assumes my opponent will always get Capture protection before I get Captured.

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Maybe, but it's another enhancement combo you have to wait to get together. I really hate hand clog.

The potential of creating a side-battle that Discards their SoG, draws two cards, and fills my Raider's Camp is worth one card's worth of potential hand-clog.

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This is another card that only stalls for 1 turn, and doesn't really hurt their offense.

Not necessarily. If they have few heroes drawn at the time it can stall for a lot longer than that, and if they have one particular hero that is crucial to their offense, or particularly harmful to me, getting rid of it permanently is a good thing.

*EDIT* Decklist updated. It's at 56 now.

batman6768 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 28, 2009, 01:50:12 AM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on October 26, 2009, 12:43:37 AM

i like astrologers with confusion and desecrate the temple ouch

muh ha ha ha!

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