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Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« on: July 18, 2009, 01:16:35 AM »
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Dominants
SoG
NJ
AotL
GoYS
HT

CM
Burial
FA
DoN

Lost Souls
Shuffler
Burial Protector
Female Only
NT Only
Revealer
Lost Souls
First Round Protector
2x Regular
Hopper

Sites
Dragon Raid
New Jerusalem

Fortresses
Goshen
Wall of Protection

Artifacts
Chariot of Fire
Burial Shroud
David's Harp
Thirty Pieces of Silver
Unholy Writ
Priestly Crown
Hezikiah's Signet Ring
I Am Creator (Covenant, technically, but only used as an artifact)

Heroes
The Strong Angel
Moses
Beniah
Ira
Captain of the Host
Shamhuth

Seraphim (blue)
Seraphim (green)
Jacob
Hur
King Asa

Evil Characters
Lot's Wife
Gomer
Red Dragon
Emperor Nero
Emperor Claudius
King of Tyrus
Prince of this World
Uzzah

Good Enhancements
Stirring the Water
Iron Pan
Chastisement of the Lord (Promo)
Presented Before the Lord
Jacob's New Name
Gathering of Angels
Godspeed
Army of the Lord
Aaron's Rod (C Deck)
Meeting in the Wilderness
Provisions
Brass Serpent (Promo)
Fountains of Living Water
Burning Up the Chaff
Shoes of Peace (F Deck)
Breastplate of Righteousness (Kings)
Belt of Truth (Kings)
Sword of the Spirit (Kings)
Shield of Faith (Kings)

One I'm Not Sure What It Counts As
Philosophy


So there it is. It does have a small captain banding chain, but the main goal is to set aside the heroes as long as I dare to grow them to obscene heights, heal them if they die, and protect the ones I'm not using. DoN is always saved for HoH and Asa exists solely to get rid of Asherah Pole. The defense is just a bunch of artifacts and splash characters to hold off the onslaught while I build up my attacking force.

Problems:
-It's supposed to be fast, and it isn't. 70 cards for this type of deck is just wrong, and I kind of feel like even 63 might be too many.
-It seems unfocused. Are the set asides a lost cause? Is the captain banding chain unecessary?
-There may be room for a better defense in here. Pale green may be a natural fit. Is this worth pursuing?
-Are FBN decks a thing of the past?


Thanks for your help!
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Re: Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2009, 09:58:25 AM »
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You might want to put in Torment, Trembling Demon and seven sons of sceva.  Plus you need a captured ark.  IF they have Holy of Holies behing a lampstand, you need to get them to shuffle the lampstand in order to nuke their Holy of Holies. (if they shuffle the holy of holies, then you are good as gold regardless)

you might want to put a Lying unto God in there anyway.

hormah's are  always good for stalling too and work even better with a 2or 3 liner  ;)

The main problem is that your defense is too small to stall for long.  I think I may bail on the set asides and use those slots to beef up my defense. 
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Re: Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2009, 04:53:24 PM »
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I don't see how Trembling demon would work in here. They would just discard an enhancement, and I would die. Am I playing it wrong?
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Re: Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2009, 04:57:10 PM »
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Quote from: happyjosiah on July 22, 2009, 04:53:24 PM
I don't see how Trembling demon would work in here. They would just discard an enhancement, and I would die. Am I playing it wrong?

No, I believe you're correct. I don't see what good it would do in there either. Unless you had Holy of Holies. But I do agree with crustpope on the set-asides. I think they could go, you should be able to get bigger then you need to with just the enhancements. It would also be nice if you could get an eithiopian treasurer, widow, and AoCP in there or something like that.
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Re: Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2009, 05:31:02 PM »
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I loved fbn decks in the good ole days but now itz difficult to win with them, possible but difficult.

it needs to be 50-56 no more than that.

my suggestions:

SoG
NJ
AotL
GoYS
HT

CM
Burial
FA
DoN


Shuffler
Burial Protector
Female Only
NT Only
Revealer
Lost Souls
First Round Protector
Hopper

Sites
Dragon Raid
New Jerusalem

Chariot of Fire
Burial Shroud
Unholy Writ
Priestly Crown
ELIJAHS MANTLE
CAPTURED ARK "cannot, will not, and is impossible to win with fbn without getting rid of artifacts

The Strong Angel
Moses
Beniah
Ira
Captain of the Host
Shamhuth
Jacob
Simeon-Gives you two people who band too captain plus its and higher offensivly NT

Red Dragon
Emperor Nero
Emperor Claudius
King of Tyrus
Prince of this World
Uzzah

Chastisement of the Lord (Promo)
Godspeed
Provisions
Brass Serpent (Promo)
Fountains of Living Water
Shoes of Peace (F Deck)
Breastplate of Righteousness (Kings)
Belt of Truth (Kings)
Sword of the Spirit (Kings)
Shield of Faith (Kings)
Philosophy

Think thatz 50. should be much better. bold are those i added
« Last Edit: July 22, 2009, 06:07:19 PM by jasonbourne »
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Re: Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2009, 05:49:20 PM »
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Trembling demon is not what you think it is, yes. But at the same time it FAILS in this deck.

Why it's good: activate holy of holies. Now the ability that your opponent can negate it is negated, and therefore it's a cbn way to stop them.

Why it's bad advice: holy of holies kills your offense.  ;D
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Re: Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2009, 10:34:44 PM »
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Quote from: jasonbourne on July 22, 2009, 05:31:02 PM
I loved fbn decks in the good ole days but now itz difficult to win with them, possible but difficult.

it needs to be 50-56 no more than that.

my suggestions:

SoG
NJ
AotL
GoYS
HT

CM
Burial
FA
DoN


Shuffler
Burial Protector
Female Only
NT Only
Revealer
Lost Souls
First Round Protector
Hopper

Sites
Dragon Raid
New Jerusalem

Chariot of Fire
Burial Shroud
Unholy Writ
Priestly Crown
ELIJAHS MANTLE
CAPTURED ARK "cannot, will not, and is impossible to win with fbn without getting rid of artifacts

The Strong Angel
Moses
Beniah
Ira
Captain of the Host
Shamhuth
Jacob
Simeon-Gives you two people who band too captain plus its and higher offensivly NT

Red Dragon
Emperor Nero
Emperor Claudius
King of Tyrus
Prince of this World
Uzzah

Chastisement of the Lord (Promo)
Godspeed
Provisions
Brass Serpent (Promo)
Fountains of Living Water
Shoes of Peace (F Deck)
Breastplate of Righteousness (Kings)
Belt of Truth (Kings)
Sword of the Spirit (Kings)
Shield of Faith (Kings)
Philosophy

Think thatz 50. should be much better. bold are those i added

That looks pretty good.
Speaking of dealing with artifacts, is cutting Asa really such a good idea?
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Re: Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2009, 10:40:00 PM »
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Oh, also it's not difficult to win with them. I made a very simple nothing but fbtn deck with gray defense for my bro, who hasn't played in 3 years, he went to a regional and went 4-1, his only loss because he forgot he had captured ark. I was watching the game and caught 4 turns in which he could have won.  ;D
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Re: Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2009, 11:01:56 PM »
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Your from the olden times. Asherah's Pole doiesn't get nearly as much play anymore.
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Re: Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2009, 11:04:00 PM »
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No, he was going for the fourth and the person only had emperor nero. Why not shuffle in their unknown nation? Nope, let's attack and let them get naaman.  ;)
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Re: Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2009, 11:20:15 PM »
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Quote from: Janissary on July 22, 2009, 11:01:56 PM
Your from the olden times. Asherah's Pole doiesn't get nearly as much play anymore.
Huh. Well get off my lawn, ya darn kids.
I was just playing Eric's orange defense deck tonight and he was all surprised both my decks ran three nails. Apparently no one does that anymore either. :)
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Re: Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2009, 11:23:26 PM »
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Yeah, not really. I only use it in my combo decks. There's alot of ways around it though, he should mess with his defense a little.
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Re: Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2009, 11:23:54 PM »
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eric largent?
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Re: Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2009, 11:24:23 PM »
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Berkenpas.
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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2009, 11:26:21 PM »
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Re: Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2009, 11:29:50 PM »
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oh btw i used wracko unfocsed fbtn at ga state in muti and got 2nd.
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Re: Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2009, 11:34:37 AM »
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Good to see you back, Josiah. I heard you won something at PA States.

I almost went do to no NJ States this year, but then found out the Maryland State tournament was closer.
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Re: Help me improve my old skool FBN deck
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2009, 01:42:16 AM »
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must stop gold cow and confusion of mind
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