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Genisis/Philistine site lock
« on: December 06, 2009, 12:30:41 AM »
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So, some basic questions...
What do you think?
Do I need to make it 56/anything to cut?
Would Paying tribute be a good add b/c of my choose the blocker stuff???

Cards in deck: 63
Lost Souls: 8
   Lost Soul (deck discard)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (Protector)
   Lost Soul (shame)
   Lost Soul (Site Discard)
   Lost Soul (site doubler)
   Lost Soul (site guard)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 5
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 5
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away
   Mayhem

Fortresses: 1
   Philistine Outpost

Red Sites: 5
   Ashdod
   Dangerous Way
   Lion's Den
   Lion's Den
   Lystra

Gold Sites: 1
   Kir

Artifacts: 4
   Burial Shroud
   Chariot of Fire
   Darius' Decree
   Stone Pillar at Bethel

Blue Heroes: 9
   Asher
   Benjamin
   Dan
   Jacob
   Judah
   Leah
   Sarah
   Simeon
   Zebulun

Blue Hero Enhancements: 8
   Abraham's Servant to Ur
   Answer to Prayer
   Jacob Buries the Foreign gods
   Jacob's Dream
   Lamenting for Jepthah's Daughter
   Obedience of Noah
   Reuben's Torn Clothes
   Well Reopened

Black Evil Characters: 7
   Fallen Warrior
   Lot's Wife
   Malchus
   Philistine Armor Bearer
   Philistine Garrison
   Philistine Priests
   Simon the Magician
   The Twelve-Fingered Giant

Black Evil Enhancements: 9
   Bringing Fear
   Danites Attack
   Foolish Advice
   Hunger
   Joseph in Prison
   Land Dispute
   Overwhelmed by Philistines
   Philistine Chariot and Horses
   Pride of Simon
« Last Edit: December 06, 2009, 11:12:58 PM by redemptioncousin »
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Re: Genisis/Philistine site lock
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2009, 12:41:05 AM »
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I'd take out one enhancement (Namaan's chariot and horses; I know why it's in there because of Ashdod and it's cool... but it's not really needed, also drawing cards on defense is bad typically for site lockout as you draw ls) and put in one ec.
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Re: Genisis/Philistine site lock
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2009, 12:46:24 AM »
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rebekah? over sarah? you also might want to add another good genesis female, as a lamented leah wont be that useful at 3/3 (also helps if one gen female gets killed). maybe eve?
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Re: Genisis/Philistine site lock
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2009, 10:06:10 PM »
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I would take out Malcus for Simon the Magician. His CBN is pretty cool. I would take out your two enhancements, Danites Attack and Naaman's Chariot and Horses. Namaan because it's grey and Danites because you already have Land dispute which can be recured by Pride of Simon. I would Add in Manasseh and King Amon for more recursion but that's me. Also I would try and add Magic Charms. I like this combo but I play it on Simon and Mannaseh. XD
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Re: Genisis/Philistine site lock
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2009, 11:09:58 PM »
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First and foremost, if I was to add Magic Charms I would use Writ before anything... I'm not using them because I don't want extra LS.

Second, I thought about Simon, and I may put him in for Naaman's CaH, but Malcus is absolutely amazing IMO.

Third, King Amon is just asking to be destroyed.  Sure he recurs enhancements (if Manasseh is d/c), but with black's absence of cannot be interrupted enhancements, he's floating dead in the water.
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Re: Genisis/Philistine site lock
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2009, 11:49:10 PM »
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The point of Amon is 1. to recur Land Dispute and 2. to be used late-game when offensive interrupts have all been used.
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: Genisis/Philistine site lock
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2009, 10:54:56 AM »
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First and foremost, if I was to add Magic Charms I would use Writ before anything... I'm not using them because I don't want extra LS.

True forgot about the lock out portion. For that Why not try Babylon and BBH? You can hide more souls that way.

Third, King Amon is just asking to be destroyed.  Sure he recurs enhancements (if Manasseh is d/c), but with black's absence of cannot be interrupted enhancements, he's floating dead in the water.

I use him when it is late and you have one or two enhancements left. He barely gets destroyed but when he does it is after he served his purpose. And for the reason Pol said.
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Re: Genisis/Philistine site lock
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2009, 12:36:32 AM »
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If this type of deck gets into a late-game situation where it still has to block, then I'm in trouble and should've lost a long time ago.  With 4+ ways to deny site access, in addition to a fairly bulky defense, all my souls should be safe in sites by "late-game". 

Also, I do not want to use BBH simply b/c green is a popular color and is splashable in many decks.  Nothing would hurt more than to load up a bunch of souls into BBH and then have your opponent come at you with a green hero splashed in a teal deck.
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Re: Genisis/Philistine site lock
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2009, 02:45:32 AM »
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I would recommend a couple things for defense.

You'd be in trouble with the occasional warrior class FBTN deck  because of its use of red. 12fg is good, but i'd add Household Idols. It helps with stupid bands that somehow have the magic color to give them access. Also, I'd use some NT sites if at all possible. If you're stuck with a Set Fire in your territory.. NT sites would be good, and I'd also add the Cov. I am Grace bc of the set fire problem.. also, why wouldn't you use perganum and the color card LS? Purple is only really used for AoCP.. so having a purple NT site would be good. I've found that in late game situations having some FBTN EC's are super helpful.. just to negate the usually low numbered "access to any site" heroes. 

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Re: Genisis/Philistine site lock
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2009, 10:54:51 AM »
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As far as NT sites, I tried... Lystra and Dangerous Way are both NT.  However, they have special abilities and therefore, I can only have one of each.  Did I miss any???

Perganum and the color guard were considered, but I don't want to vary my colors too much and I just felt that Kir was a better option (and that's why it's in over Perganum).

As far as people that splash red (ie FBTN deck), I definitely think HHI is a great idea.  I usually play with so much banding myself that I never even consider that artifact.  Take out GoYS, Mayhem, Danites Attack, Judah, or Hunger???  My inclination would be Mayhem... but I'm not sure.  Any thoughts???
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Re: Genisis/Philistine site lock
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2009, 04:14:23 PM »
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The O.T. restriction on Set Fire only applies to Fortresses; it can kill all Sites. Therefore, N.T. Sites don't matter.
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: Genisis/Philistine site lock
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2009, 09:46:49 PM »
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The O.T. restriction on Set Fire only applies to Fortresses; it can kill all Sites. Therefore, N.T. Sites don't matter.

+1 which is why usually i will do sites with royalty and play king Hezzy. or cov of noah
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2009, 10:19:20 PM »
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I would definitely take out mayhem. The only way I could really see it help you at all is maybe in your first turn. but in any site deck drawing cards after your prep phase is always super dangerous. I would keep danites attack in IMO. The more ways to steal access without having to even get in battle, the better. I would take out goys and hunger both. this deck is ultimately designed to outlast the enemy fire power and walk all over their defense.. so rescuing 6 souls instead of 5 won't be a big deal. I'd also take out hunger. it can kill your guys, or give your opponent tons of initiative

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Re: Genisis/Philistine site lock
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2009, 10:53:17 PM »
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Hunger doesn't kill my guys... that's why I used it instead of Wrath.  It only targets opponent's heroes.
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