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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Type 1 Deck Advice => Topic started by: dermo4christ on August 04, 2013, 10:13:19 PM
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Cards: 58
Souls: 8
Hand Discard
Deck Discard
CBP
Female/SoG Only
NT only
Shame
Site Remover
Shuffler
Good Dominants: 3
Son of God
New Jerusalem
Grapes of Wrath
Evil Doms: 2
DoN
Mayhem
Sites: 2
Egypt
Hormah
Forts: 2
Pithom
Storehouse
Arts/Curses: 5
Charms
RBD
H. Treasures
Unknown Nation
Given Over to Egypt
Blue Brigade Heroes: 9
Eve
Rachel
Zeb
Asher
Ben
Levi
Simeon
Jake
Judah
Dual Brigade Heros: 1
Joe
Blue Enhances: 7
RTC
Numerous
Well Reopened
Jacob Buries the gods
Joseph Before Pharoah
Answer to Prayer
Forgiveness of Joe
Green Enhances: 1
Creation of the World
Good/Evil Enhance: 1
7 Years of Plenty
Gold Evil Characters: 5
Dreaming Pharoah
Egyptian Charioteers
Baker
Cupbearer
Huge Egyptian
Dual Brigade Evil Characters: 2
Ammy's Slave
Egyptian Magicians
Multi-colored Evil Characters: 1
Foreign Wives
Dual Brigade Evil Enhances: 2
Invoking Terror
Magician's Snakes
Evil Gold Enhances: 7
Wonders Forgotten
Evil Spirit
Egyptian Horses
Failed Objective
Moses kills Egyptian
Egyptian Spear
Enslaved by Egypt
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Cards: 52
Souls: 8
Revealer
FRP
CBP
Female/SoG Only
NT only
Shame
Resurect
Hopper
Good Dominants: 3
Son of God
New Jerusalem
Angel of The Lord
Evil Doms: 4
DoN
Mayhem
Vain Philosophy
Christian Martyr
Forts: 3
Pithom
Storehouse
Pharoah's Throne Room
Arts/Curses: 3
Darius Decree
Gifts of the magi
Given Over to Egypt
Blue Brigade Heroes: 7
Eve
Rachel
Zeb
Asher
Ben
Jacob
Judah
Dual Brigade Heros: 1
Joe
Blue Enhances: 5
RTC
Abe's Kids
Joseph Before Pharoah
Answer to Prayer
Forgiveness of Joe
Good/Evil Enhance: 1
7 Years of Plenty
Gold Evil Characters: 6
Dreaming Pharoah
Egyptian Charioteers
Baker
Cupbearer
Egyptians Wisemen
Huge Egyptian
Dual Brigade Evil Characters: 2
Ammy's Slave
Egyptian Magicians
Multi-colored Evil Characters: 1
Foreign Wives
Dual Brigade Evil Enhances: 1
Magician's Snakes
Evil Gold Enhances: 7
Wonders Forgotten
Swift horses
Egyptian Horses
Failed Objective
Moses kills
Besiege the City
Egyptian Spear
Personally I would drop the deck discard stuff for more power
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Cards: 52
Souls: 8
Revealer
FRP
CBP
Female/SoG Only
NT only
Shame
Resurect
Hopper
Good Dominants: 3
Son of God
New Jerusalem
Angel of The Lord
Evil Doms: 4
DoN
Mayhem
Vain Philosophy
Christian Martyr
Forts: 3
Pithom
Storehouse
Pharoah's Throne Room
Arts/Curses: 3
Darius Decree
Gifts of the magi
Given Over to Egypt
Blue Brigade Heroes: 7
Eve
Rachel
Zeb
Asher
Ben
Jacob
Judah
Dual Brigade Heros: 1
Joe
Blue Enhances: 5
RTC
Abe's Kids
Joseph Before Pharoah
Answer to Prayer
Forgiveness of Joe
Good/Evil Enhance: 1
7 Years of Plenty
Gold Evil Characters: 6
Dreaming Pharoah
Egyptian Charioteers
Baker
Cupbearer
Egyptians Wisemen
Huge Egyptian
Dual Brigade Evil Characters: 2
Ammy's Slave
Egyptian Magicians
Multi-colored Evil Characters: 1
Foreign Wives
Dual Brigade Evil Enhances: 1
Magician's Snakes
Evil Gold Enhances: 7
Wonders Forgotten
Swift horses
Egyptian Horses
Failed Objective
Moses kills
Besiege the City
Egyptian Spear
Personally I would drop the deck discard stuff for more power
Unfortunately, I had to go with what I had...lol. I don't have the new dominant, abe's kid, Swift Horses, or Revealer Soul. If I don't make any changes, how well do you think this would do in Nats?
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Personally I would drop the deck discard stuff for more power
If you don't have more power, then I would drop the deck discard stuff to concentrate the power you have (and make the deck faster).
Cards: 52 50
Souls: 8
Revealer or the everybody draw 1 LS until you trade for this at Nats
FRP
CBP
Female/SoG Only
NT only there will be too many disciples and TGT ladies to use this soul
add NT shuffle/closed door LS
Shame I would use the new LS from the tin instead that discards opp's heroes
Resurect
Hopper
Good Dominants: 3
Son of God
New Jerusalem
Angel of The Lord
add Grapes of Wrath because it's awesome and can be used both ways
Evil Doms: 4
DoN shut down by Lampstand, easily replaced with Captured Ark
Mayhem
Vain Philosophy or DoN until you trade for this at Nats
Christian Martyr
Forts: 3 2
Pithom this is another part of the deck discard, and can go
Storehouse
Pharoah's Throne Room
Arts/Curses: 3
Darius Decree
Gifts of the magi
Given Over to Egypt more deck discard, it can go
Captured Ark will replace the lost DoN
Blue Brigade Heroes: 7
Eve
Rachel
Zeb
Asher
Ben
Jacob
Judah
Dual Brigade Heros: 1
Joe
Blue Enhances: 5
RTC
Abe's Kids or Numerous until you trade for this at Nats
Joseph Before Pharoah
Answer to Prayer
Forgiveness of Joe
Good/Evil Enhance: 1
7 Years of Plenty
Gold Evil Characters: 6
Dreaming Pharoah
Egyptian Charioteers
Baker
Cupbearer
Egyptians Wisemen
Huge Egyptian more deck discard that can go
Egyptian Warden is a great Genesis egyptian to replace him
Dual Brigade Evil Characters: 2
Ammy's Slave
Egyptian Magicians
Multi-colored Evil Characters: 1
Foreign Wives
Dual Brigade Evil Enhances: 1
Magician's Snakes
Evil Gold Enhances: 7 6
Wonders Forgotten
Swift horses or Evil Spirit until you trade for this at Nats
Egyptian Horses
Failed Objective
Moses kills
Besiege the City
Egyptian Spear more deck discard to take out
how well do you think this would do in Nats?
This is a really solid deckbuild. If given the big 3 (piloted by top player, getting good draws, playing against favorable matchups), I think this has the potential to win it all. But I think it is more likely to end up just outside the top cut, somewhere around 15th - 20th place.
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I would add Angel of the Lord (G) and Stone Pillar - then you can search for NJ or AotL (or other great cards such as 7 years).
Kirk
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Captured Ark and Stone Pillar are risky because of of the dominance of Nazareth in the T1 meta, thus risk becoming complete dead draws. If using one or both, I would suggest an Uzzah, and potentially a Plot as well.
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While that is true it may be a dead card I think it still is worth using even if you only can play it once every 2 games. I also checked in decks for the most recent regional featuring many top players and Nazareth was only in a small number of the decks, IIRC...
Kirk
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While that is true it may be a dead card I think it still is worth using even if you only can play it once every 2 games.
I tend to not gravitate towards cards that are completely shut down by tech found common in the meta, unless they also serve a dual purpose. In Nazareths case, The Amalakites Slave, Angel Under the Oak, and even Mayhem itself find utility outside of a live Nazareth.
...featuring many top players...
and Nazareth was only in a small number of the decks, IIRC...
Are these two clauses mutually inclusive? I'm going to find it hard to believe Nazareth will not be featured at a majority of the top tables at Nats.
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Personally I would drop the deck discard stuff for more power
If you don't have more power, then I would drop the deck discard stuff to concentrate the power you have (and make the deck faster).
Cards: 52 50
Souls: 8
Revealer or the everybody draw 1 LS until you trade for this at Nats
FRP
CBP
Female/SoG Only
NT only there will be too many disciples and TGT ladies to use this soul
add NT shuffle/closed door LS
Shame I would use the new LS from the tin instead that discards opp's heroes
Resurect
Hopper
Good Dominants: 3
Son of God
New Jerusalem
Angel of The Lord
add Grapes of Wrath because it's awesome and can be used both ways
Evil Doms: 4
DoN shut down by Lampstand, easily replaced with Captured Ark
Mayhem
Vain Philosophy or DoN until you trade for this at Nats
Christian Martyr
Forts: 3 2
Pithom this is another part of the deck discard, and can go
Storehouse
Pharoah's Throne Room
Arts/Curses: 3
Darius Decree
Gifts of the magi
Given Over to Egypt more deck discard, it can go
Captured Ark will replace the lost DoN
Blue Brigade Heroes: 7
Eve
Rachel
Zeb
Asher
Ben
Jacob
Judah
Dual Brigade Heros: 1
Joe
Blue Enhances: 5
RTC
Abe's Kids or Numerous until you trade for this at Nats
Joseph Before Pharoah
Answer to Prayer
Forgiveness of Joe
Good/Evil Enhance: 1
7 Years of Plenty
Gold Evil Characters: 6
Dreaming Pharoah
Egyptian Charioteers
Baker
Cupbearer
Egyptians Wisemen
Huge Egyptian more deck discard that can go
Egyptian Warden is a great Genesis egyptian to replace him
Dual Brigade Evil Characters: 2
Ammy's Slave
Egyptian Magicians
Multi-colored Evil Characters: 1
Foreign Wives
Dual Brigade Evil Enhances: 1
Magician's Snakes
Evil Gold Enhances: 7 6
Wonders Forgotten
Swift horses or Evil Spirit until you trade for this at Nats
Egyptian Horses
Failed Objective
Moses kills
Besiege the City
Egyptian Spear more deck discard to take out
how well do you think this would do in Nats?
This is a really solid deckbuild. If given the big 3 (piloted by top player, getting good draws, playing against favorable matchups), I think this has the potential to win it all. But I think it is more likely to end up just outside the top cut, somewhere around 15th - 20th place.
LOl....I may have to rethink what deck I'm going to use becasue I still don't have some of these cards....I may have to borrow from my brother in law....but I'm still not sure he has some of these....So as far as the Souls....I have all of your suggestions except the draw 1 Lost soul....I don't have the new starters so that one is out. The others I have in my Watergarden deck. I don't have Captured Ark but I think George (brother in law) has one that he doesn't use, and so I can take Pithom out and not use it to hold Unknown Nation (I have that and Given Over in the deck right now)? And I do actually have Numerous in there right now (and I know I really want Abe's Kid), and I do have a Warden I can put in which I originally had him in there and took him out for Huge Egyptian which carried the Spear to discard 2 instead of one. And I also have Evil Spirit in there now.
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...featuring many top players...
and Nazareth was only in a small number of the decks, IIRC...
Are these two clauses mutually inclusive? I'm going to find it hard to believe Nazareth will not be featured at a majority of the top tables at Nats.
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Valid question. My memory may not be as sharp as I would like it to be but I think Naz was in only a couple of the top players' decks. Westy echoed my thoughts on the shortage of Naz in his latest podcast. I imagine Nats may be different though.
Kirk