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so everything in an ability after a ":" is part of the same ability?
You can play ANB and take another turn after you've rescued a LS, right? I vaguely remember some sort of "your opponent has to be able to take a turn after a successful rescue" thing being made after the last ANB debacle but obviously that wasn't the case with the Eternal Inheritance/Christ's Triumph bidniz.
There is a rule that stops you from making 2 successful rescue attempts before each opponent has had a turn.
With eternal inheritance does the hero have to have access to the lost soul if it's in a site? And who gets to choose which lost soul is rescued?
You're wrong. Everything after the : is part of the "if it is your turn, banish this card" clause.The only thing you can do outside of your turn is negate protect abilities (which does have some value in certain situations).
Quote from: The Guardian on March 30, 2018, 04:55:30 PMYou're wrong. Everything after the : is part of the "if it is your turn, banish this card" clause.The only thing you can do outside of your turn is negate protect abilities (which does have some value in certain situations).A solution to make it more clear that everything after the "banish this card" clause is a part of the : is instead of periods use semi-colons:"Negate protect abilities. If it is your turn, banish this card: Shuffle all cards in play, set aside, and hands; each player must draw 8; begin a new turn."
Quote from: KoalaKing on March 30, 2018, 09:22:01 PMYou can play ANB and take another turn after you've rescued a LS, right? I vaguely remember some sort of "your opponent has to be able to take a turn after a successful rescue" thing being made after the last ANB debacle but obviously that wasn't the case with the Eternal Inheritance/Christ's Triumph bidniz.With the current wording of the card spoiler here you can use it to take two turns in a row each with a successful rescue, yes.Apparently there's a rule that prevents this.
So for territory class characters with instant abilities like 'look at opponent's hand', can you do these at any time? Or just when you first put them into play?
EI resulted in a failed rescue, because no LS was rescued in battle resolution. We changed that so EI is a successful rescue.There is a rule that stops you from making 2 successful rescue attempts before each opponent has had a turn.On the colon, unless the ability before the colon is a look or reveal, everything after the colon is dependent on that ability. Look and Reveal is at least the rest of the sentence, maybe more. Ends of the Earth stinks for defining the colon. (Not that it's the only card - it's just the first one that comes to mind.)
Quote from: Red on March 31, 2018, 02:07:39 PMJapeth's wife's special ability is somewhat cumbersome. Could "search" not still be employed where it's smoother?I agree (assuming you're talking about Shem's Wife), but apparently search is being phased out entirely in favor of take, regardless of whether it ends up looking/sounding clunky or not.
Japeth's wife's special ability is somewhat cumbersome. Could "search" not still be employed where it's smoother?
Great explanation RedemptionAggie! I'm not sure if you were responding to me or the other posts... but I'd still like to throw it out there again as to what happens to old search abilities and anti search cards? Do we now just have a complicated blob of "play as" in the REG for each old card?Unless if this was changed in a previous REG update and I just missed the boat on the change then please ignore the old fossil over here
Search is not it's own thing. Sometimes we can't state it (exchange) or we don't state it (discard from deck, banish from discard pile, top/underdeck from Reserve, etc.). But the search still happens.Prior to Fall of Man, we were down to 3 situations where we actually used the word "search" (X is a searchable location, Y is what you search for):- "Search X for Y (and add it to hand)", which has been replaced with "Take Y from X" (which works because of a different change that allows you to take cards you do not control, not just opponent's cards)- "Search X for Y and put it in play" or "Search X for Y and play it", which has been replaced with "Play Y from X" (Sample)- "Search opponent's X for Y and put it in play" (where Y is usually a Lost Soul), which is Shem's Wife. (And it is clunky, IMO.)Basically, since we can't always state the search, we never state the search.