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FBTNB deck
« on: May 30, 2013, 03:45:48 PM »
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Here's my FBTNB Deck. Could use some pointers.

Cards: 54
Lost souls:
NT hero only
*/4 or greater
cannot be prevented
female
revealer
protected from rescue unless a human is in play or set aside
underdeck when opp. plays a good dominant

Artifacts:
Chariot of fire
Magic charms
captured ark
unholy writ
darius' decree

Heroes:
Asahel
Ishmaiah
abishai
ira
benaiah
heldai
maharai
isrealite archer
TSA
helez

hero enhancements:
mustering for war
foreign sword
warrior's spear
david's triumph
counsel of abigail (ROA)

Black evil characters:
goliath (promo)
the woman of thebez

Black enhancements:
bringing fear
stone of thebez
joseph in prison

Brown evil characters:
Gomer
Uzzah
The amalekites slave

Brown enhancements:
Haman's plot

Pale green evil characters:
egyptian magicians
astrologers
King manasseh
assyrian survivor

pale green enhancements:
confusion
2k horses
death of unrighteous
achans sin
Invoking terror

Dominants:
Falling away
Christian martyr
AoTL
SoG
NJ
Destruction of nehustan
Guardian

Thanks for the help!
« Last Edit: June 05, 2013, 08:38:21 PM by bballer54 »

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Re: FBTNB deck
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2013, 03:50:41 PM »
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Personally, I would get rid of Gifts of the magi. You could replace it with household idols. even though it hurts your band, it would help your Philistine Garrison. -Your regional teammate, Bdog

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Re: FBTNB deck
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2013, 04:19:04 PM »
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if you plan on using this in a tourney, i would put in a gallows, or be prepared to not have it the rest of the time....
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Re: FBTNB deck
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2013, 06:03:16 PM »
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Get another dominant in there.  Stone's not so good without any canaanites.  Consider dropping gifts (add golden cherubim if you want to benefit from their drawing) and/or Confusion of mind.  I'm not a fan of Chariot of fire, especially if you are not using Wrath.  Having both brass serpent and chariot is redundant imo, remove at least one of them.  switch out prince of this world for another magician (and probably switch out enchanter for a different magician too, but he could work seeing as how you are running 3 colors), add divination and swap out writ for charms.  Speaking of the 3 colored defense, as soon as the new set is legal, add in scattered and foreign wives. I don't even know what disobedience does, but I've never seen anyone use it, so you could probably drop it.  Warrior's spear could probably be dropped.  If you are using so much red, you should be using a soldier's prayer.

if you plan on using this in a tourney, i would put in a gallows, or be prepared to not have it the rest of the time....

Don't use gallows.
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Re: FBTNB deck
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2013, 06:18:32 PM »
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Don't use gallows.

While I would typically agree with Drrek, it depends on how many Plots you have. If you have a decently-sized stockpile, it's best to avoid using the card space for Gallows. But if not, it allows you to use it without ruining your deck strategy for future tournaments. I personally wouldn't use Gallows in a T1 deck, but that's because I have ~20 Plots. But I could definitely understand why someone would want to use it.
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Re: FBTNB deck
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2013, 07:48:04 PM »
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Get another dominant in there.
I would add Harvest Time since you don't have Nazareth in your deck anymore.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2013, 11:04:38 AM by Bdog »

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Re: FBTNB deck
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2013, 12:44:13 AM »
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Thanks for all the help! I usually won't be using at to many tourneys, and have a few plots, so no gallows. I added gifts because my deck is slow, but it hasn't really been helping much. Confusion of mind is one of my favorite cards, makes my opponents so mad  ;). Maybe getting rid of prince is a good option, but I liked the combo with him and garrison being immune to lone heroes, and twelve fingered giant and Goliath negating banding. I don't think I can add household idols, bad for offense. Should I add Egyptian mags or king mannaseh or who? Mannaseh would be good for another plot target. I really like enchanter, actually gets me a lot of blocks. That sounds like too many characters though. Is chariot or serpent better?

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Re: FBTNB deck
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2013, 11:58:11 PM »
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I would replace guardian with Grapes, because if you get FA'd before you draw guardian, it's a dead draw.  Regardless of when you draw Grapes, it will always be useful.  Instead of chariot I would throw in Blue tassles.  One thing I've come to find is that capture is a big problem for the deck, and protecting your heroes from capture is essential.  Also, seconding what Drrek said, Chariot and a recurrable Brass Serpent is redundant.  I wouldn't use gallows, but that's just me.
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Re: FBTNB deck
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2013, 12:35:02 PM »
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While I would typically agree with Drrek, it depends on how many Plots you have. If you have a decently-sized stockpile, it's best to avoid using the card space for Gallows. But if not, it allows you to use it without ruining your deck strategy for future tournaments. I personally wouldn't use Gallows in a T1 deck, but that's because I have ~20 Plots. But I could definitely understand why someone would want to use it.

One other thing to keep in mind is that Gallows affects all Plots, including your opponents'.  They will have no hesitation on ripping one if you play Gallows down, but they might think twice if they are limited.

Consider dropping Confusion of mind. 

Agree with this.  Your art slot isn't worth CoM, especially if your opponent uses Abe's Descendant - they can use CoM against you, and then you have to deal with it.

Also, as to the choice of Chariot or Brass Serpent - I'd go Brass Serpent.  You can search it out with A Soldier's Prayer, plus you get the benefit immediately.  FBNTB is best when it never lets up.  Time spent waiting for Chariot (which they will probably save DoN for anyways, if they manage to discard a lot of your heroes) and then waiting to draw the heroes again is time wasted.
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Re: FBTNB deck
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2013, 01:41:15 PM »
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Scattered would be a good add, me personally id trade it for achan's sin.

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Re: FBTNB deck
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2013, 08:31:43 PM »
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Also, as to the choice of Chariot or Brass Serpent - I'd go Brass Serpent.  You can search it out with A Soldier's Prayer, plus you get the benefit immediately.  FBNTB is best when it never lets up.  Time spent waiting for Chariot (which they will probably save DoN for anyways, if they manage to discard a lot of your heroes) and then waiting to draw the heroes again is time wasted.
But also, i can only use it once. I usually end up getting discarded more than once, especially alot with the lost soul that says if you played an evil enhancement, then discard all rescuing heroes.
also, since i only have a few red enhancements, i decided not to use soldier's prayer.
I would replace guardian with Grapes, because if you get FA'd before you draw guardian, it's a dead draw.  Regardless of when you draw Grapes, it will always be useful.
i actually dont have grapes, my only other dominants are harvest time, and burial
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Re: FBTNB deck
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2013, 09:53:50 PM »
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Also, as to the choice of Chariot or Brass Serpent - I'd go Brass Serpent.  You can search it out with A Soldier's Prayer, plus you get the benefit immediately.  FBNTB is best when it never lets up.  Time spent waiting for Chariot (which they will probably save DoN for anyways, if they manage to discard a lot of your heroes) and then waiting to draw the heroes again is time wasted.
But also, i can only use it once. I usually end up getting discarded more than once, especially alot with the lost soul that says if you played an evil enhancement, then discard all rescuing heroes.
also, since i only have a few red enhancements, i decided not to use soldier's prayer.
I would replace guardian with Grapes, because if you get FA'd before you draw guardian, it's a dead draw.  Regardless of when you draw Grapes, it will always be useful.
i actually dont have grapes, my only other dominants are harvest time, and burial

You can recur brass serpent with ASP if hero destruction worries you so much.  Its not optimal, but harvest time or burial is still worth it to put in until you get a better dom like grapes.
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