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Remove tribal elder and centurion and angel in the path.  Add Abishai (WC) and Asahel TxP and Covenant with Moses.  I assume by the W you mean Warrior class and not the "Warriors" version?  You definitely want the Warrior class versions of all.  Add Dragon Raid for site access.  Add I am Salvation for Lost Soul access (and to fight the annoying "cannot be prevented" and "more than 3 brigades" lost souls).  Have a bunch of ways to destroy/shuffle artifacts, and you have a strong offense.

This is one of my favorite decks.  Have fun with it.

actually instead of dragonraid you will need new jerusalem and promised land bcuz a site lockout with pergamum would wipe out your deck. Also the warriors ones are sometimes better bcuz i block you with zimri your offense goes byebye. BUT if you wanna go mass banding warrior class go for - Asahel to Heldai to Mahari to Helez to your choice of Beneniah or Ira...well i would forgo the strong angel (warrior class) and go to warrriors (since no one bands to him anyway) and maybe a simeon, jacob, CoTH (warriors)

actually instead of dragonraid you will need new jerusalem and promised land bcuz a site lockout with pergamum would wipe out your deck. Also the warriors ones are sometimes better bcuz i block you with zimri your offense goes byebye. BUT if you wanna go mass banding warrior class go for - Asahel to Heldai to Mahari to Helez to your choice of Beneniah or Ira...well i would forgo the strong angel (warrior class) and go to warrriors (since no one bands to him anyway) and maybe a simeon, jacob, CoTH (warriors)

Good point if they are using Pergamum.  Priestly Crown is a good choise too.  For the Zimri issue have a Brass Serpent Promo in there, or COF of course or Name of the Lord.

Quote from: fyero on June 02, 2010, 05:27:29 PM

actually instead of dragonraid you will need new jerusalem and promised land bcuz a site lockout with pergamum would wipe out your deck. Also the warriors ones are sometimes better bcuz i block you with zimri your offense goes byebye. BUT if you wanna go mass banding warrior class go for - Asahel to Heldai to Mahari to Helez to your choice of Beneniah or Ira...well i would forgo the strong angel (warrior class) and go to warrriors (since no one bands to him anyway) and maybe a simeon, jacob, CoTH (warriors)

Good point if they are using Pergamum.  Priestly Crown is a good choise too.  For the Zimri issue have a Brass Serpent Promo in there, or COF of course or Name of the Lord.

Possibly even I am Healing

Remove tribal elder and centurion and angel in the path.  Add Abishai (WC) and Asahel TxP and Covenant with Moses.  I assume by the W you mean Warrior class and not the "Warriors" version?  You definitely want the Warrior class versions of all.  Add Dragon Raid for site access.  Add I am Salvation for Lost Soul access (and to fight the annoying "cannot be prevented" and "more than 3 brigades" lost souls).  Have a bunch of ways to destroy/shuffle artifacts, and you have a strong offense.

This is one of my favorite decks.  Have fun with it.

I was referring to warrior class heroes with (w). n

Thanks for the advise thus far! 

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on June 02, 2010, 06:27:12 PM

Just as an FYI - Since the CBP soul grants a CBP ability it in itself is CBP.

Cannot be prevented is not the same as cannot be negated.  It it was then the lost soul would be an even stronger Asherah Pole and make all evil enhancements CBN.  Thus it is my understanding that I am Salvation DOES negate the special ability on the CBP lost soul, and every other Lost Soul except the Lost Souls card.

To stop a CBP ability, you have to interrupt it, then basically remove it from play.  I Am Salvation interrupts it (first part of negate), but then all it does is try and prevent it (which it can't).  So the CBP lost soul keeps on preventing.

Quote from: jmhartz on June 02, 2010, 07:04:01 PM

Quote from: stefferweffer on June 02, 2010, 06:44:50 PM

Cannot be prevented is not the same as cannot be negated.  It it was then the lost soul would be an even stronger Asherah Pole and make all evil enhancements CBN.  Thus it is my understanding that I am Salvation DOES negate the special ability on the CBP lost soul, and every other Lost Soul except the Lost Souls card.

To stop a CBP ability, you have to interrupt it, then basically remove it from play.  I Am Salvation interrupts it (first part of negate), but then all it does is try and prevent it (which it can't).  So the CBP lost soul keeps on preventing.

I don't think this is right. Negate is interrupt + prevent in a sense, but not exactly.

If you play an evil cannot be prevented enhancement, I can still negate it.... I think

It's always made sense to me like this:  CBI can't be undone once it has activated.  CBP can't be stopped ahead of time.  You can interrupt a CBP enhancement, but unless you do something to indirectly prevent it (like discard it), it still activates.  Something that directly negates with the word "negate" can't negate a CBP ability.

Of course, this is moot concerning the CBP LS, since it says "Unless a covenant is in play..."  I Am Salvation is a covenant, so the CBP LS doesn't work when IAS is active.

@ Rawrl:
Yes, you can still negate it if you negate it after it is played because prevent means to negate before it is played.

So are you saying you can negate a CBP card just by playing a plain vanilla negate such as Flaming Sword?

Or warriors Moses and Strong Angel........

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on June 02, 2010, 08:03:09 PM

Yes, I could negate a CBP evil enhancement with Flaming Sword.

The CBP soul was created to slow those mean old captain bands, probably.

Hypothetical situation.  I have an occupied site in play, you RA against me, I block with a small orange character, play Corrupted, which is CBP.  You play Flaming Sword, which interrupts Corrupted.  Then Flaming Sword tries to prevent Corrupted, but since Corrupted is CBP, it can't be prevented and your hero is still converted.  Captain's ongoing ability (preventing special abilities) is no different from Flaming Sword's ability after it has interrupted the last enhancement (prevent the previous enhancement).

No. You play Corrupted, and I play Flaming Sword (which is a negate). The conversion never takes place, as Corrupted cannot be prevented: it may still be negated after you have played it.

EDIT: REALLY BAD, INCORRECT WORDING.

But it can be negated. 

cbp can be interrupted, then prevented.