Author Topic: Egyptians (Read 6531 times)

Westok Kiok · « **on:** December 17, 2012, 08:41:09 PM »

Cards in deck: 56
Lost Souls: 8
   Lost Soul (*/4)
   Lost Soul (Beggar)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (first round)
   Lost Soul (hopper)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (Shut Door)

Lamb Dominants: 4
   Angel of the Lord
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 3
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away
   Mayhem

Fortresses: 3
   Pharaoh's Throne Room
   Raiders' Camp
   Wall of Protection

Single Color Sites: 2
   Egypt- Gold
Pharaoh's Prison- Blue

Artifacts: 2
   Hezekiah's Signet Ring
   Unholy Writ

White Covenant Cards: 2
   Captured Ark (Crimson)
   Given Over to Egypt (Gold)

Silver Heroes: 3
   Captain of the Host
   The Angel Under the Oak
   The Strong Angel

Red Heroes: 3
   Asahel
   Heldai
   Ishmaiah the Gibeonite

Gold Heroes: 2
   Israelite Archer
   Moses

Green Heroes: 2
   Benaiah
   David

Blue Heroes: 2
   Ira
   Jacob

Silver Hero Enhancements: 1
   Striking Herod

Red Hero Enhancements: 3
   A Soldier's Prayer
   Bravery of David
   David's Triumph

Brown Evil Characters: 1
Uzzah

Gold Evil Characters: 5
   Egyptian Archer
   Egyptian Warden
   Pharaoh's Baker
Potiphar
   The Dreaming Pharaoh

Multi Evil Characters: 2
The Amalekites' Slave
Egyptian Magicians

Gold Evil Enhancements: 8
   Beheaded
Beseiging the City
   Egyptian Horses
   Enslaved by Egypt
Failed Objective
   Swift Horses
   Take as a Slave
   Wonders Forgotten

All right. I know this isn't that good. I'm looking for suggestions on how to make it better. I'm open to anything right now.
---Ok. Made some changes. Is it looking any better? Anything really stand out now? Thanks so far

wyatt_marcum · « **Reply #1 on:** December 17, 2012, 08:50:51 PM »

Raider's cap isnt very usefull since you only have like two captures. If you had four or more, it wld be useful.

Westok Kiok · « **Reply #2 on:** December 17, 2012, 09:04:38 PM »

Quote from: wyatt_marcum on December 17, 2012, 08:50:51 PM

Raider's cap isnt very usefull since you only have like two captures. If you had four or more, it wld be useful.

I count three, with Warden possibly getting more. Thought I had more... I'd like to keep it in though. It's one of my favorite cards.

wyatt_marcum · « **Reply #3 on:** December 17, 2012, 09:27:00 PM »

It's a good card, but you need at least four capture enhancements for it to REALLY be practical in a deck. It would provide 4 Auto blocks then.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #4 on:** December 17, 2012, 09:39:07 PM »

Quote from: wyatt_marcum on December 17, 2012, 09:27:00 PM

It's a good card, but you need at least four capture enhancements for it to REALLY be practical in a deck. It would provide 4 Auto blocks then.

I disagree. 4 is way too many capture cards for any deck. 3 is a lot, but with Raider's Camp can be useful.

IMO, the biggest advantage of Raider's Camp is being able to sidestep protection and interrupts by capturing your own characters, killing your own evil character, but then getting your characters back.

The defense looks decent, but I don't like the offense at all.

Westok Kiok · « **Reply #5 on:** December 17, 2012, 10:09:40 PM »

The offense is where I really struggle. I can't find one that I like. I need one that is effective, but it also has to be simple enough for me to figure it out and make it work

. Thanks for helping me out. I need a lot of help...

jbeers285 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 17, 2012, 10:11:57 PM »

Westok your best bet would TGT then till u get a better handle on the game

Red · « **Reply #7 on:** December 17, 2012, 10:13:05 PM »

Quote from: jbeers285 on December 17, 2012, 10:11:57 PM

Westok your best bet would TGT then till u get a better handle on the game

TGT is less simple than thought to be. To play TGT you need to run a defense you can't put down, enough territory destucion to kill defenses thast exist and multiple other things.

wyatt_marcum · « **Reply #8 on:** December 17, 2012, 10:22:29 PM »

red is fairly easy. or mabey angels.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #9 on:** December 17, 2012, 10:28:33 PM »

Quote from: wyatt_marcum on December 17, 2012, 10:22:29 PM

red is fairly easy. or mabey angels.

Too bad straight of either of them aren't very good. Combining them isn't any better.

14 cards isn't a whole lot. I recommend Gold/Silver.

wyatt_marcum · « **Reply #10 on:** December 17, 2012, 10:31:48 PM »

Red isnt good? why not?
and Angels can hold their own fairly well. hard to kill you know.

Westok Kiok · « **Reply #11 on:** December 17, 2012, 10:49:31 PM »

I could try TGT. Haven't experimented on it any. I also don't have any of the neccessary tgt cards. I could try it some on RTS though. I usually use more angels than I have in this one right now.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2012, 10:56:45 PM »

Quote from: wyatt_marcum on December 17, 2012, 10:31:48 PM

Red isnt good? why not?
and Angels can hold their own fairly well. hard to kill you know.

Straight Red has speed problems. Ishy and Mustering is your only options. It's not as bad as most people think, but it needs to be combined with FBTN stuff to be truly effective. Either make a Samuel/Red, or Martin's Nats winning deck (which is still really underrated).

Angels are a nice anti-meta counter, but don't have the speed or firepower to "hold their own" against a "real" defense.

wyatt_marcum · « **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2012, 11:10:09 PM »

I have Abigal ad Pentacost in my deck. that is the only mix. It has a babs defence, and it has always decked out before or soon after my opponent.

TheJaylor · « **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2012, 11:47:19 PM »

Otherwise you could use Joseph and crew. They usually work well with an Egyptian defense.
As far as what you have currently goes I would say:
OUT:IN--

Tables of the Law:Given Over to Egypt
Kingdoms of the World:Pharoah's Throne Room
Denial of Christ:Take As a Slave
Caleb's Sword:David's Triumph
Weapon of Light:A Soldier's Prayer
Peter:Ishmaiah the Gibeonite
Four Drachma Coin:Unholy Writ
Jacob:Benaiah(kings)
Freedom!:Bravery of David
Book of Life:David

I'd maybe also suggest finding room for Egypt and Pharoah's Court Room/Banks of the Nile for a little site stuff to help Enslaved by Egypt. Otherwise, switch out the Beggar and Site Discard LS's for Wanderer LS and Shut Door LS or others that you can think of that would be more useful, those are just my two suggestions.

Master KChief · « **Reply #15 on:** December 18, 2012, 12:02:53 AM »

Wheres Moses? You already have 3 out of 5 of the Fierce Five. Adding Simeon and Moses will give you access to the most powerful synergy of cards in the game right now.

Westok Kiok · « **Reply #16 on:** December 18, 2012, 12:20:25 PM »

Thanks for suggestions so far. @Koalakingofa- Thanks. This was really helpful. @MKC- I don't know if Moses is a good option if I do not have enhancements to boost his numbers.

One Q: If I use Unholy Writ, does the captured hero get put in RC? It says any hero captured by your human EC gets put there.

I'll update my deck in a little bit. To me, it's starting to look better

Iamalittleking · « **Reply #17 on:** December 18, 2012, 12:22:37 PM »

Quote from: Westok Kiok on December 18, 2012, 12:20:25 PM

One Q: If I use Unholy Writ, does the captured hero get put in RC? It says any hero captured by your human EC gets put there.

I'll update my deck in a little bit. To me, it's starting to look better

I wish it did use self capture in my deck put sadly is does not

Red · « **Reply #18 on:** December 18, 2012, 12:30:26 PM »

Quote from: Westok Kiok on December 18, 2012, 12:20:25 PM

Thanks for suggestions so far. @Koalakingofa- Thanks. This was really helpful. @MKC- I don't know if Moses is a good option if I do not have enhancements to boost his numbers.

One Q: If I use Unholy Writ, does the captured hero get put in RC? It says any hero captured by your human EC gets put there.

I'll update my deck in a little bit. To me, it's starting to look better

The Q is no. The thing with moses is that he will never attack alone. Simeon or Jacob will attack banding to auto then AUTO will exchange to moses which cannot be negated making a band.

Westok Kiok · « **Reply #19 on:** December 18, 2012, 01:26:45 PM »

Quote from: Red on December 18, 2012, 12:30:26 PM

Quote from: Westok Kiok on December 18, 2012, 12:20:25 PM
Thanks for suggestions so far. @Koalakingofa- Thanks. This was really helpful. @MKC- I don't know if Moses is a good option if I do not have enhancements to boost his numbers.

One Q: If I use Unholy Writ, does the captured hero get put in RC? It says any hero captured by your human EC gets put there.

I'll update my deck in a little bit. To me, it's starting to look better
The Q is no. The thing with moses is that he will never attack alone. Simeon or Jacob will attack banding to auto then AUTO will exchange to moses which cannot be negated making a band.

Thank you. This is what I did not understand... silly me. I'll put Moses in there then.

Westok Kiok · « **Reply #20 on:** December 18, 2012, 01:59:11 PM »

Deck updated

jbeers285 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 18, 2012, 02:04:52 PM »

Defense needs some help

Drop horseman for 7 years of plenty

I'd throw in a few more genesis Egyptians

U need to drop out numbered, given over to Egypt an put in failed object and besieging the city

Drop beheaded for potiphar's wife
Drop unknown nation for the amekelite slave

Drop Egypt for Egyptian magicians
Drop hezzy signet ring for Pharaoh's cup bearer

I personally prefer grapes of wrath and CM over guardian of your souls and falling away

Iamalittleking · « **Reply #22 on:** December 18, 2012, 02:54:24 PM »

Quote from: Westok Kiok on December 17, 2012, 08:41:09 PM

Cards in deck: 56
Lost Souls: 8
   Lost Soul (*/4)
   Lost Soul (Beggar)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (first round)
   Lost Soul (hopper)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (Shut Door)

Lamb Dominants: 4
   Angel of the Lord
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 3
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away
   Mayhem

Fortresses: 3
   Pharaoh's Throne Room
   Raiders' Camp
   Wall of Protection

Gold Sites: 1
   Egypt

Artifacts: 3 2
   Hezekiah's Signet Ring
   ~~Priestly Crown~~
   Unholy Writ

White Covenant Cards: 3
   Captured Ark (Crimson)
   Given Over to Egypt (Gold)
   Unknown Nation (Yellow)

Silver Heroes: 3
   Captain of the Host
   The Angel Under the Oak
   The Strong Angel

Red Heroes: 3
   Asahel
   Heldai
   Ishmaiah the Gibeonite

Gold Heroes: 2
   Israelite Archer
   Moses

Green Heroes: 2
   Benaiah
   David

Blue Heroes: 2
   Ira
   Jacob

Silver Hero Enhancements: 1
   Striking Herod

Red Hero Enhancements: 3
   A Soldier's Prayer
   Bravery of David
   David's Triumph

Gold Evil Characters: 57
   Egyptian Archer
   ~~Egyptian Horsemen~~
   Egyptian Warden
   Pharaoh's Baker
   The Dreaming Pharaoh
Pharaoh's cupbearer
Queen tahpenes
pots wife
Gold Evil Enhancements: 76
   ~~Beheaded~~
   Egyptian Horses
   Enslaved by Egypt
   Outnumbered
   Swift Horses
   Take as a Slave
   Wonders Forgotten

All right. I know this isn't that good. I'm looking for suggestions on how to make it better. I'm open to anything right now.
---Ok. Made some changes. Is it looking any better? Anything really stand out now? Thanks so far

Site lock just is not used so drop priestly crown.
Queen tahpenes is better than horsemen.
as good rule to follow is that your enhancement do not out number your characters so i cut beaded and put in potiphar's wife.

Westok Kiok · « **Reply #23 on:** December 18, 2012, 02:57:40 PM »

Ok. Updated again.
For some reason, my RTS didn't put Egyptian Magicians and Amalekites' Slave on here even though they're in the deck...
Another Q: If Potiphar's Wife defeats someone, they are captured to owner's LoB. Would they go to RC?

jbeers285 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 18, 2012, 03:06:13 PM »

Raiders camp only works if your human evil character captures someone lol

I know RC is a good card but its not as good as u want it to be lol

Potiphar's wife sends defeated opponents hero's to the owner of the hero's land of bondage thus generating souls for you to rescue.

Your still missing failed objective.

The best way to use besieging the city is with FO or WF u enter battle with a little guy who gets initiative play BtC and then follow with FO or a double block

It also prevent your opponent from drawing on their next turn

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