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Title: Early church offense? Anyone?
Post by: Legolas on March 18, 2016, 08:05:51 PM
I was wondering if any one has a very fast moving good early church offense.
If so please post it under here or send me a link. Please let me know thank you!
Title: Re: Early church offense? Anyone?
Post by: kariusvega on March 18, 2016, 08:13:16 PM
i think disciples have the fastest early church offense.. reassuring angel, matthias, new peter with 4dc of course, matthew with reassuring, phil bart with reassuring, i mean the holy spirit is fast too with reassuring to phil bart you can get 3 fruits of the spirit then d3 or 7 next turn. christ's triumph would go really well in it too to grab fruits then draw if you get blocked. peace/joy with peter on anyone is very powerful because you can go in with +7/0 toss guy and just heal after a mutual battle for the soul grab then go again. coming of the spirit is awesome.. lot's a great speed options there. then have james thad with maybe a tgt reach and aocp and you are in business holy grail, you don't need many battle winners once you get cooking
Title: Re: Early church offense? Anyone?
Post by: Crashfach2002 on March 18, 2016, 08:18:34 PM
One question/point, I thought it was ruled that a heal does not increase "decreased" numbers unless it was to or past 0/0. If that is the case Peter could not heal the tossing hero until they were actually discarded. (In which case they would return to normal numbers)
Title: Re: Early church offense? Anyone?
Post by: RedemptionAggie on March 18, 2016, 08:38:41 PM
Karius was talking about healing after a mutual destruction, so the tossing hero would have been discarded.  And it's not that the decreased hero has to be discarded, it just has to be healable for something other than the decrease (poison, paralysis, etc.).
Title: Re: Early church offense? Anyone?
Post by: Legolas on March 18, 2016, 09:30:59 PM
Awesome, thanks guys, I'll keep it in mind!
Any others?
Title: Re: Early church offense? Anyone?
Post by: Ironisaac on March 19, 2016, 11:10:24 AM
I know that deck is fast, I played it and it destroyed me before I could get anything else out! Super solid deck! ;)
Title: Re: Early church offense? Anyone?
Post by: Gabe on March 19, 2016, 12:11:58 PM
You can build a fairly fast offense using any of the following churches:

Colossi
Corinth
Ephesus
Philippi

All four of those have a Hero that will search out other Heroes from their church. Three of the four can use Claudia effectively. Claudia alone makes a clay offense fast.
Title: Re: Early church offense? Anyone?
Post by: Legolas on March 19, 2016, 03:50:23 PM
I was looking at a Corinth deck, do you have a list you could maybe share Gabe? Thanks.
Title: Re: Early church offense? Anyone?
Post by: Gabe on March 19, 2016, 04:15:59 PM
I was looking at a Corinth deck, do you have a list you could maybe share Gabe? Thanks.

I don't. Karisvega's T2 deck is posted on the forums. That should give you a good starting point to build a T1 version.
Title: Re: Early church offense? Anyone?
Post by: Legolas on March 20, 2016, 10:59:35 AM
thank you everyone, let me know if you have others
Title: Re: Early church offense? Anyone?
Post by: Josh on April 01, 2016, 09:48:21 AM
I built a very fast Clay splash offense recently.  I made a few tweaks as I practiced with it, but here is what it is now:

Claudia - Should be in every Clay splash offense, gets your Clay heroes in play faster
Chloe - Corinth, D1 for each Corinth hero (3 in deck)
Stephanus - Corinth, tutors Chloe/Apollos
Ephesian Mentor - Ephesus, tutors/recurs Apollos
Apollos - Ephesus/Corinth, recurs Clay enhancements (Christ's Triumph usually)
Epaphras - Colossae, tutors/recurs Colossae heroes (Philemon is best)
Philemon - Colossae, D1 for each Colossae hero (3 in deck, including his tutor)
Onesimus - Colossae, protects against some chump blocks while Philemon is in battle
Soldier of God - Tutors Cornelius/Saint of Virtue/Christian Soldier
Christian Soldier - Tutors Armors of God
Saint of Virtue - Recurs Armors of God
Cornelius - Simply a beast
Peter - Because he's Peter

And for enhancements, I used:
Belt of Truth - Protects against Scattered, speeds up your deck
Breastplate of Righteousness - Protects against Scattered, negates evil brigades
Mercy of James - Awesome battlewinner that is not theme-specific
Elymas Struck Blind - Awesome battlewinner that is not theme-specific
Peter's Sermon - Awesome battlewinner that is not theme-specific.  Can convert FW or Claudius due to regardless of protection
Christ's Triumph - Great to place on The Ephesian Mentor, as he can tutor/recur/band to Apollos, and Apollos can recur Christ's Triumph
Generous Giving - Interrupt/Draw/Play.  I later dropped this for Preaching In The Synagogue for another generic Interrupt + Win
Gamaliel's Speech - Should be in every deck that uses Clay or Gray
A Soldier's Prayer - Tutors/recurs Armors and Christ's Triumph

When you fill a deck with CBI/CBN banding, and include cards that stop Scattered, you win battles quite easily.  Plus your offense is going full-speed almost from the start of the game, because of all the searching and drawing.  The problems I kept running into with this deck were chump blocks (DoU and SSS were the worst) and soul drought (I use Awake, Hopper, and Revealer LS in a 50-card deck, plus Mayhem).  Onesimus, the Thorns LS, and Miraculous Handkerchiefs are all in the deck now to help stop chump blocks.
Title: Re: Early church offense? Anyone?
Post by: kariusvega on April 01, 2016, 10:59:18 AM
Generous Giving - Interrupt/Draw/Play.  I later dropped this for Preaching In The Synagogue for another generic Interrupt + Win


Word of Christ could be a good one here too.. it's a great card.
Title: Re: Early church offense? Anyone?
Post by: Gabe on April 01, 2016, 11:03:26 AM
That's a very cool offense! I like how even though the clay churches tend to draw you to play mostly one church you've found a way to use the best pieces from different ones effectively!

With A Soldier's Prayer and JD's mention of Word of Christ I'd want to find a way to squeeze in Music Leader. Once he's there I might even consider Praise from Prison. The problem is fitting all this great stuff in there. :-\
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