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I used this deck at my playgroup's tournament last month. I think I won twice, lost once, and had a timeout tie. Surprisingly, the biggest issues I had were my opponents not having Souls for me to rescue, my protect sites not getting out til after my opponent used abilities that they protected against, and then the game I lost was due to my opponent using Michael + Angel's Sword for several rescues in a row (which makes KoT and Herod's Dungeon useless) after I had already used Agrippa + Treachery to withdraw/capture. His deck was too large at that point to force Michael to withdraw with Philip, so I always had to let him play the first enhancement, and I don't have any negates (and only 1 interrupt) in this deck so he often got battle winners off easy-peasy.

Halp?

Cards in Deck: 56
Lost Souls: 7
  Wanderer
  Luke 13:25
  Hand discard
  Deck discard
  Luke 16:20-21
  Luke 15:13
  Revealer

Sites: 3
  Herod's Dungeon
  Golgotha
  CP

Dominants: 9
  AotL
  SoG
  NJ
  GoYS
  Grapes
  HT
  DoN
  Burial
  CM

Fortresses: 2
  Fishing Boat
  Herod's Temple

Artifacts/Covs/Curses: 5
  4DC
  UW
  Chariot
  Crown of Thorns
  The New Covenant

Heroes: 11
  All the good disciples

Good Enhancements: 6
  Reach
  Faith/Mustard Seed
  MLaMG
  Pentecost
  AoCP
  Sons of Thunder

Evil Characters: 6
  Herod the Great
  Salome
  Herod Philip 2
  KoT (gold)
  Herod Agrippa 2
  Amalekite's Slave

Evil Enhancements: 7
  Imprisoned
  Wonders Forgotten
  Escape to Egypt
  Mask of Fear
  Swift Horses
  Beheaded
  Herod's Treachery

Add the hopper/HT for soul generation (if you really want to go overboard, Amelikites slave too) and Passover Hymn.  Take out Chorazin, it's not that good.

Hopper/HT are certainly worth slots.  You might want to take out Disciples you never use.

In Disciples, Peter's never really useful unless you use Four Drachma Coin.

Mayhem can be an incredibly useful card.  I've seen games decided by a first turn Mayhem.

Do you think it would be better at 56 or 70?

Did the cuts that Master Q suggested as well as adding Crown of Thorns. Anything else I can cut to get FA, Hopper, or HT in there?

I'd love to keep Herodias in, but idk what to take out instead.

Cut Archeleus, Herod Antipas, and Sent Two by Two. Add Andrew, Peter, and 4 Drachma Coin.

Cut Archeleus, Herod Antipas, and Sent Two by Two. Add Andrew, Peter, and 4 Drachma Coin.

I'm really not at all sure why this would be beneficial.

I'm not sure how the reverse is beneficial. Herod Antipas? Really? Are you that desperate for evil characters? Archeleus is unnecessary with Herod the Great, and I've never thought of Sent Two by Two as helpful. I can't think of two disciples you might want to band together (that would get initiative to play it in the first place). Andrew and Peter add Disciples for Thad, Matt, and Fishing Boat, and 4 Dolla Holla, outside of being nice occasionally to protect yourself, draws four cards (which is awesome).

I get the Andrew/Peter = moar Disciples thing (though, to date, I've never actually used Thad's protection ever), and I like the drawing from Coin, but it seems like taking those 2 Herods out leaves me with barely any evil characters at all. Sent 2 By 2 has actually won me more battles than Thad's ability ever has (since he's won me exactly 0).

I'm not sure who's -1ing.  CM25's post was inappropriate before he edited it which is probably why it got a -1 and deserved it.  As for your post I can only assume that someone thinks there's only one right way to play Disciples, and that's Thad abuse. 

Thad is good but he's overrated.  There are a number of different focuses you could take with a Disciples offense.  It's not necessary to abuse Thad even though that's very powerful when it work and it might be easiest approach.  That style doesn't leave a lot of room for defense.  I encourage you to hear the advice of others and only apply it as it fits with your goal and play style.  Obviously you want to fit in a decent defense and that could give you an advantage over other Disciple decks.