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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2012, 04:18:06 PM »
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I'll take the bet. If turtle wins this years nats, I will run up an escalator. Backwards.
I don't think its impossible, in fact I predict turtle will take nats this year. I can feel it in my feet. ;) If I am wrong I will personally renounce the SQF in all its greatness and give all of my ques to RDT. I kid you not. Counter bets?  ;)

I'll take this. If the deck that wins this years nats is a turtle deck I'll wear a Tim Tebow jersey to the award ceremony (i had to pick something that people on the boards would understand WHY it was embarrassing for me. Let's not start a Tebow discussion again.)
I was planning on using my speed deck for nats, but now I'm hands down playing a turtle deck.

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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2012, 04:41:49 PM »
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I think we're going to see a lot of turtles this year now. ;D

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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #52 on: February 04, 2012, 06:50:10 PM »
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I'll take the bet. If turtle wins this years nats, I will run up an escalator. Backwards.

That's crazy talk!   ;)
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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2012, 07:01:02 PM »
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Time to learn to play this little turtle in my deck box.... Maybe he's fun... lol
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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #54 on: February 04, 2012, 07:09:37 PM »
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I'll take the bet. If turtle wins this years nats, I will run up an escalator. Backwards.

From the last couple replies I think I can proclaim that you and I have balanced redemption. High five.

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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #55 on: February 04, 2012, 08:03:16 PM »
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Ooh, now I just need to hope that T1-2P and T2-2P are on different days. Seeing lp wear a Tebow jersey AND MKC vs. Escalator Round 2 would be awesome. But still not enough for me to abandon T2-2P in favor of T1.
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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #56 on: February 04, 2012, 08:04:35 PM »
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If anyone has a Tebow jersey please bring it to nats. I obviously don't have one and I am way too poor to buy one so we may have to improvise.

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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #57 on: February 04, 2012, 09:08:04 PM »
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I'll take the bet. If turtle wins this years nats, I will run up an escalator. Backwards.
From the last couple replies I think I can proclaim that you and I have balanced redemption. High five.
If only it was that easy.  Many moons ago, I tried to balance T1-mp by creating a group called MASK.  It totally failed due to people who had talked all year about playing a different style of T1-mp, ended up playing Booster instead.  I suspect the same thing will happen here.  People will talk of playing turtles, and then we'll get to Nats, and everyone will still be playing Gardensciples, Sam, and Geneptians.

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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #58 on: February 04, 2012, 09:09:36 PM »
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I'll take the bet. If turtle wins this years nats, I will run up an escalator. Backwards.
From the last couple replies I think I can proclaim that you and I have balanced redemption. High five.
If only it was that easy.  Many moons ago, I tried to balance T1-mp by creating a group called MASK.  It totally failed due to people who had talked all year about playing a different style of T1-mp, ended up playing Booster instead.  I suspect the same thing will happen here.  People will talk of playing turtles, and then we'll get to Nats, and everyone will still be playing Gardensciples, Sam, and Geneptians.
Ah but can these people really pass up the sight of me in a Tebow jersey? Can you imagine the self loathing on my face during the award ceremony? *shudder*

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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #59 on: February 04, 2012, 09:23:02 PM »
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I hold that the Nats winning deck will have some elements of an anti-meta deck. For a full-on anti-meta deck to win is absurd, and even placing is unlikely. Now that said, I'd put forth a large amount of money on the bet that there will be a few anti-meta staples in the winning deck. Maybe a prophets deck with HHI, or anything with HSR and RBD. I have no idea, since I've always been bad at anti-meta, but I think the evidence is pretty heavy towards that side. I'm looking forward to seeing what the meta looks like this season once we get into the big tournaments starting in May.

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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #60 on: February 04, 2012, 09:32:15 PM »
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I'll take the bet. If turtle wins this years nats, I will run up an escalator. Backwards.
From the last couple replies I think I can proclaim that you and I have balanced redemption. High five.
If only it was that easy.  Many moons ago, I tried to balance T1-mp by creating a group called MASK.  It totally failed due to people who had talked all year about playing a different style of T1-mp, ended up playing Booster instead.  I suspect the same thing will happen here.  People will talk of playing turtles, and then we'll get to Nats, and everyone will still be playing Gardensciples, Sam, and Geneptians.

Yep. It turns out people want to win or get new cards. That's a real shocker.

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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #61 on: February 04, 2012, 09:53:10 PM »
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I'll take the bet. If turtle wins this years nats, I will run up an escalator. Backwards.
From the last couple replies I think I can proclaim that you and I have balanced redemption. High five.
If only it was that easy.  Many moons ago, I tried to balance T1-mp by creating a group called MASK.  It totally failed due to people who had talked all year about playing a different style of T1-mp, ended up playing Booster instead.  I suspect the same thing will happen here.  People will talk of playing turtles, and then we'll get to Nats, and everyone will still be playing Gardensciples, Sam, and Geneptians.
Only for the first few rounds. I have a history with turtles. Have no fear.

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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #62 on: February 05, 2012, 04:24:25 AM »
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I hold that the Nats winning deck will have some elements of an anti-meta deck. For a full-on anti-meta deck to win is absurd, and even placing is unlikely

 :o :o :o
Two years ago I made a deck in the airport, I think, that I had no testing, and no tweaking, and forgot some cards, and was one mistake to getting second place, and one block from first place. I got third in Boston with my A-Bomb turtle deck. Ring Wraith was making a similar copy last year and Nathan came and got me to critique. I fixed up his deck, and it ended up being a few cards shy of my original version, and it got third. I am not sure how close he was to second or first, but two years straight that "The Turtle", as I call it since it dominated two years at nationals, ranked. I think a fast offensive heavy deck, a balanced deck, and a turtle will rank 1-3. I'd bet that the balanced deck gets first, offensive 2nd, turtle 3rd.

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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #63 on: February 05, 2012, 11:30:32 AM »
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I hold that the Nats winning deck will have some elements of an anti-meta deck. For a full-on anti-meta deck to win is absurd, and even placing is unlikely

 :o :o :o
Two years ago I made a deck in the airport, I think, that I had no testing, and no tweaking, and forgot some cards, and was one mistake to getting second place, and one block from first place. I got third in Boston with my A-Bomb turtle deck. Ring Wraith was making a similar copy last year and Nathan came and got me to critique. I fixed up his deck, and it ended up being a few cards shy of my original version, and it got third. I am not sure how close he was to second or first, but two years straight that "The Turtle", as I call it since it dominated two years at nationals, ranked. I think a fast offensive heavy deck, a balanced deck, and a turtle will rank 1-3. I'd bet that the balanced deck gets first, offensive 2nd, turtle 3rd.
It was basically the same without sites. I actually built my TEAMS deck based on your deck, and then didn't have a T1 one day so I ripped a deck out of the TEAMS decks. I loved playing it, so I stuck with it.

Had I beat John Earley I probably would have won (I guess I would have played a different opponent last round, so I might have lost that game then), but I made a sub-optimal play. He rescued MMoJ to Salome and I could have used Charms, but I decided to use Goliath to try to snag a different character than Salome (I was still going to capture MMoJ). He drops a Lydia from hand, which I should have thought about. :\

All in all, I think a Turtle has a pretty good shot at second, but I'm skeptical of a first.

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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #64 on: February 05, 2012, 02:00:03 PM »
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Ooh, now I just need to hope that T1-2P and T2-2P are on different days. Seeing lp wear a Tebow jersey AND MKC vs. Escalator Round 2 would be awesome. But still not enough for me to abandon T2-2P in favor of T1.

I assume it will be at different times as most nationals other than MN pair them separetely, however you may have to give up your chance to defend your type 2 multi title.

If anyone has a Tebow jersey please bring it to nats. I obviously don't have one and I am way too poor to buy one so we may have to improvise.

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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #65 on: February 05, 2012, 02:14:56 PM »
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What size is it?

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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #66 on: February 05, 2012, 02:16:31 PM »
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I don't know what size do want it to be.  :P I haven't bought it yet but I usually go with xl or xxl for jerseys (you can't keep it though)  ;)

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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #67 on: February 05, 2012, 02:20:30 PM »
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either of those is fine. I just wanted to make sure it would be big enough that if I ended up having to wear it I wouldn't accidentally rip it on you. (and don't worry, I do not want to keep it)

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Re: Defenses strong enough for turtle?
« Reply #68 on: February 05, 2012, 02:58:36 PM »
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I assume it will be at different times as most nationals other than MN pair them separetely, however you may have to give up your chance to defend your type 2 multi title.
I have a good hunch that Jordan can play both t1 2p and t2 2p this year.
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