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Hey, just wondering everyone's opinion on this deck, and improvement advice. It's a fairly sturdy deck, has held off quite well in a couple of games. Defense seems a bit flaky though.

Cards in deck: 64
Lost Souls: 8
   Lost Soul (anti-ignore)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (same reference)
   Lost Soul (shame)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Soul (Shut Door)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Souls (3-line)

Lamb Dominants: 5
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   Harvest Time
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 5
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away
   Mayhem

Fortresses: 1
   Storehouse

Artifacts: 4
   Chariot of Fire
   Gifts of the Magi
   Hidden Treasures
   Samaritan Water Jar

White Covenant Cards: 1
   Rain Becomes Dust (Gray)

Multi-Color Heroes: 2
   Daniel (Green/White)
   Samuel (Gold/Green)

Silver Heroes: 8
   Angel at Shur
   Angel with the Secret Name
   Atteding Angel
   Cherubim
   Cherubim
   Seraph
   Seraph with a Live Coal
   The Angel Under the Oak

Gold Heroes: 2
   Good Samaritan
   Watchful Servant

Green Heroes: 1
   Isaiah

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 7
   Drawn Sword (Green/Crimson)
   Forest Fire (Green/Crimson)
   Isaiah's Call (Green/Silver)
   Live Coal (Green/Silver)
   Razor (Green/Pale Green)
   Siegeworks (Green/Pale Green)
   Spiritual Warfare (Green/Silver)

Silver Hero Enhancements: 3
   Angel's Sword
   Death of Firstborn
   Striking Herod

Gold Hero Enhancements: 1
   Kindness

Crimson Evil Characters: 5
   Archers of Kedar
   King Belshazzar
   Nebuchadnezzar
   Nebushasban
   Nergalsharezer

Black/Orange Evil Characters: 2
       The Goat with Horn
       The Winged Leopard

Crimson Evil Enhancements: 6
   Belshazzar's Banquet
   Dream
   Head of Gold
   Imitating Evil
   Large Tree
   Swift Horses

Black Evil Enhancements: 2
   Abomination of Desolation
   Wrath of Satan

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RTS has a nasty habit of not letting multi-brigade evil characters show up on the deck summary.

Yeah, that's really annoying. Back on topic, I'd try to focus your offense to one theme.

Right now you have more cards than you have lost souls for. Also, you have way too many silver heroes. Drop Angel with a Secret Name and the old Cherubim.

I thought it was 7 ls for a 57 card deck, and 8 for a 64 card deck?

yikes. well I need to get rid of one card .I guess angel with secret name hasn't helped all that much. I usually just use him to get out samuel. I'd rather not keep reducing my angels though if at all possible as this was SUPPOSED to be a mainly angel offense. At least that's how it started out

I was really wanting to add king david and king saul to use with samuel to be able to draw more. is this feasible? if so, what would I swap? Also, i'd rather not get rid of the old cherubim as he works really well against gardenciples.

I would.  The extra draws with Sam are nice (you've already got plenty of ways to pull him out.  Swap Kindness for Sam's Edict, and drop WS, SWJ and Samaritan.

I'd take out the Black. You won't get initiative to play those enhancements and you only have one forced draw ability for Abom.

I agree. Don't play Abomb unless your whole thing around it.

Gifts doesn't really seem to fit, especially with no Hur. Unholy Writ would be better, IMO.

Actually it's there for the same reason as RBD and Abomination. Almost everyone I play draws insanely.

Actually, except in the last 2 games against RTSManiac when I couldn't draw them, they helped immensely. Even if the DoN'd either RBD or Gifts, i'd still be able to either stop them through speeding through their deck, or at least help me get through mine just as quick.

Quote from: SomeKittens on February 08, 2012, 01:12:42 PM

Gifts is there for drawing off of Kindness, I think.  You'd need much more forced drawing to justify it.

I have found this to be entirely untrue, you can generally rely on your opponents' having at least some drawing in their decks, and usually a lot of it.

But splashing it isn't effective. Any competent speed deck will have Captured Ark, and outside of a lucky draw, odds are, your opponent will draw both DoN and Captured Ark by the time you draw both RBD and Gifts of the Magi. Not to mention Foreign Sword.

It's two cards that have a  VERY beneficial effect once played. besides, Captured Ark just shuffles them in, not discard. So you can get them back. Also, I found that people would rather DoN my Chariots than my RBD or Gifts.

but if you are playing against a speed deck, they probably will have will won by the time you draw it again & if not, they can always use CA again. The bottom line is that while it may occasionally be beneficial, it's not consistently good enough to use.

Quote from: LordZardeck on February 08, 2012, 04:32:34 PM

It's two cards that have a  VERY beneficial effect once played. besides, Captured Ark just shuffles them in, not discard. So you can get them back. Also, I found that people would rather DoN my Chariots than my RBD or Gifts.

To emphasize, in our own game, you only got a D3 off of me.

People (yourself included) will include 4-drachma coin in decks to get a D4 that kills the artifact AND requires another card in play to get that draw, yet getting "only a D3" with a card that stays up until your opponent has to either use their DoN or Captured Ark on it can't be justified to be included?