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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Type 1 Deck Advice => Topic started by: Noah on January 22, 2011, 10:26:23 AM
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So far the only defense I have for this deck is philie stand alone I was wondering if there would be something better to pair with the offense and if the offense could use any changes.
Total 56
Doms 11
Grapes of Wrath
Guardian of Your Souls
Son of GOD
New Jerusalem
Angel of the Lord
Harvest Time
Mayhem
DoN
Christian Martyr
Burial
Falling Away
Lost Souls 8
N.T. Only
Female Only
Shuffler
Two Liner
Wanderer
First Round Protect
Revealer
Hopper
Forts 1
Philie Outpost
Sites 1
Dragon Raid
Curses/Arts 7
Go into Captivity
Captured Ark
Chariot of Fire
Holy grail
Urim and Thummim
Rams Horn
Priestly Crown
Heroes 9
The Centurion at Calvary
The Centurion at Capernaum
Asahel
Abisha
ET
Phinehas son of Eleazar
Priests of Christ
Ahimaaz
Joshua the High Priest
Good Enhancements 10
AoCP
A Soldier’s Prayer
David’s Triumph
Centurion's Proclamation
Trumpet and Sword
Pentecost
First Fruits
Passover and Unleavend Bread
Zeal for the Lord
Trumpet Blast
Evil Characters 7
Philie Garrison
The Twelve-Fingered Giant
Philie Armor Bearer
King of Tyrus
The Amalekites' Slave
Gomer
Uzzah
Evil Enhancements 2
Bringing Fear
Land Dispute
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now this decklist I like. CP Killer. now if they dont have sites or an evil fortress, are you going to kill your own Outpost? I would suggest Rams Horn and Passover of Unleavened Bread (works great with PoC).
If killing CP, why not throw in an ET+AoC splash :) and add purple site with protect ls. of course one could argue that Sword and Trumpet is an AoC in disguise.
and now for all you site players out there:
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but what happens if PoC is out at the wrong time? maybe add silver trumpets to put hero back in hand? :) I do love the interaction between opponent placing down EC's to stop PoC just to give you the opprutunity to kill them.
You could take out Three Nails for something else, but i do love it in this deck with Golgotha killers everywhere but im concerned for your defence.
7 Heros seems to small especially with so small a defence.
Stronghold is also amazing here. No Warrior's Spear or Spy for that matter? Passover would also help with Stronghold.
OOO Table of showbread so your priest can play red?
Ill work on defence later.
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Too bad it has to be occupied.
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Thanks for the replys. I had to take out warrior's spear for grapes, and I would add more heros if the defense was smaller, and I already have Ahimaaz so I didn't think spy was necessary. If I added more heros I might throw in ET+AoCP.and I was thinking of adding Z Temple but that might be to much.
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The defense is way too small to support a control offense.
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How does that look ;)
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The defense shrunk...
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Does a defense have to be big ??? I mean look at the decks that won nats last two years, I know they had speed but it works fine for me.
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For a deck like this, the defense needs to be bigger, IMO. Also, balanced is (supposedly) coming back. I've yet to be convinced though.
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would you have any suggestions ???
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How about a babylonian site lock/heritic defense :o
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You can use sites, but it's not worth trying to lock them. Fishing Boat will kill you. I like crimson though.
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With all due respect to RTSManiac, his ideas are solid but they won't work well in this type of deck most of the time (except Passover & Unleavened Bread).
I would cut these cards to make room for more useful stuff:
Stronghold in the desert
Rams Horn
Go into captivity or Unholy writ (one is nice, both are overkill since it's so easy to protect from capture)
The Silver Trumpets
Dodai the Ahohite
The Battle is the Lords
Benedictus
Torment
These should improve your deck:
Hopper LS
Priestly Crown - access for all but PoC and can be used by Uzzah when not needed
Abishai - can band to both Centurions. Ashel + Abishai + Centurion can be pretty nice
Joshua the High Priest - one of the best teal Heroes
First Fruits - Let's speed this deck up a bit
Passover & Unleavened Bread
Pentecost - Let's speed this deck up a bit
Haman's Plot - if you're using 3 brown ECs this is too good to pass up
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Thanks Gabe.
I should be able to test it and give you feedback on how it works by the end of today.
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Ok so since I last posted I said I would give you feedback so here it is. I played a total of two games (aka both my brothers ;)) Whos' decks can be found
Round one
Teal red and what? VS Genesis persian
I got to use the setaside enhancements and I realy like having them in there (which is how I got my Son of God)
and I didn't have a hamans plot (but if I did I still Probably won't of used it anyway cause of the ripping) so I put in CoM but I didn't get it the whole game, so after that I took it out for Rams horn (I like atleast one CbI red battle)
And I also didn't get Abishai, but Joshua the High Priest worked great.
I won that game 5-3
Round two
Teal red and what? VS judges/silver emperors
I got Asahel, The Centurion at Capernaum, Davids Triumph, and AotL to start. I rescue with The Centurion at Capernaum he blocked with the terifiying beast banded to Emperor Galba so I laid Davids Triumph and discarded Emperor Galba and then Angel of the Lorded the terifiying beast Getting a LS. Then I drew A Soldiers Prayer and Searched for Centurion's Proclamation and then rescued with Asahel, making him block with Emperor Claudius, then I laid Centurion's Proclamation with rams horn active and he converted it to silver geting me another LS. then I forgot how I got the other one and laid SoG & NJ to win 5-3.
(you can probebly tell I played my second game closer to when I typed this Because I forgot most of what happend in the first game)
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now this decklist I like. CP Killer. now if they dont have sites or an evil fortress, are you going to kill your own Outpost? I would suggest Rams Horn and Passover of Unleavened Bread (works great with PoC).
If killing CP, why not throw in an ET+AoC splash :) and add purple site with protect ls. of course one could argue that Sword and Trumpet is an AoC in disguise.
and now for all you site players out there:
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fredemptionreg.com%2FREG%2FLinkedDocuments%2FDodai%2520the%2520Ahohite%2520%28RA%29.gif&hash=d7cf6a0dc96adfc6bca54bc32e1bd199250cab8a)
but what happens if PoC is out at the wrong time? maybe add silver trumpets to put hero back in hand? :) I do love the interaction between opponent placing down EC's to stop PoC just to give you the opprutunity to kill them.
You could take out Three Nails for something else, but i do love it in this deck with Golgotha killers everywhere but im concerned for your defence.
7 Heros seems to small especially with so small a defence.
Stronghold is also amazing here. No Warrior's Spear or Spy for that matter? Passover would also help with Stronghold.
OOO Table of showbread so your priest can play red?
Ill work on defence later.
Now lets find a way to band Centurion at capernaum to him and you get a free site discard every turn even if cp is out.
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with gabes above suggestions might i also suggest:
Joiada, Son of Eliashib (FF) recur set asides
Zerubbabel’s Temple (FF) need to recur set asides and gives Z-Temple dudes protection
The Sabbath (Pi) makes enhancements CBN and is recurable
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Updated ;D
If anybody has any more suggestions then post here. if not then I'll be sending this one to complete decks soon.
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I would exchange PoC for Joiada, Son of Eliashib and something else for something elses for Z-Temple just to recur