Author Topic: Clay/Green Deck - Now 2P! (Read 8409 times)

LukeChips · « **Reply #25 on:** December 12, 2014, 12:44:33 PM »

Ok, the starter deck use 7 GC and 7 EC, so is it a good idea to use 8 GC and 8 EC?

browarod · « **Reply #26 on:** December 13, 2014, 07:00:10 PM »

Would this offense theme be better as a 2P deck? I'm looking at it and it just isn't as fast as the Disciples decks I've used in that format.

If I was going to do this, what different changes/updates would people suggest?

Master Q · « **Reply #27 on:** December 16, 2014, 12:33:03 PM »

Quote from: browarod on December 13, 2014, 07:00:10 PM

Would this offense theme be better as a 2P deck? I'm looking at it and it just isn't as fast as the Disciples decks I've used in that format.

If I was going to do this, what different changes/updates would people suggest?

Changes to make it a 2p deck or changes to make it a MP Disciples deck? If 2p just fit more defense, if MP just start over if you want Disciples lol.

browarod · « **Reply #28 on:** December 16, 2014, 12:35:48 PM »

Change it to a 2P deck, lol. I'll probably rebuild my disciples deck to still have a MP deck.

Changed the thread title to reflect this.

The Guardian · « **Reply #29 on:** December 19, 2014, 12:13:40 AM »

In this deck, Messenger of Satan (TEC) is better than Spirit of Temptation.

browarod · « **Reply #30 on:** December 19, 2014, 10:04:38 AM »

Quote from: The Guardian on December 19, 2014, 12:13:40 AM

In this deck, Messenger of Satan (TEC) is better than Spirit of Temptation.

Thanks! I've changed that.

Of the suggestions people provided earlier, are they still valid for a 2P deck variant or would people suggest different changes?

I'm wondering if it's worth going to 56 to add some more defense. I had thought about doing a Roman/Site defense but didn't have the room for it in the MP variant. Any thoughts on that? Roman Jailer and the other Phase 2 gray cards, plus the new sites, etc.

The Guardian · « **Reply #31 on:** December 19, 2014, 03:45:55 PM »

Being that this isn't a super fast deck, I would probably add some defense. If all of your EE end up in the bottom half of your deck, you'll be lucky to make one block all game.

I think I would start by adding Night Raid, Sorrow of Mary and Uzzah.

browarod · « **Reply #32 on:** December 24, 2014, 09:17:02 PM »

Added those 3 cards.

Any other suggestions to get this 2P worthy? I've ignored the suggestions from when I still wanted to make this an MP deck so if any of those are still valid for 2P please let me know and I'll make those changes, too.

The Guardian · « **Reply #33 on:** December 26, 2014, 03:41:20 AM »

For the last two, I'd go with Provisions and Proud Pharisee--even without another Pharisee to draw, the play next ability is strong enough IMO.

browarod · « **Reply #34 on:** December 26, 2014, 11:08:51 AM »

Quote from: The Guardian on December 26, 2014, 03:41:20 AM

For the last two, I'd go with Provisions and Proud Pharisee--even without another Pharisee to draw, the play next ability is strong enough IMO.

Ooh, I forgot about Provisions, definitely adding that. Proud Pharisee would be a good fit, I think, yeah. Thanks!

Nameless · « **Reply #35 on:** December 26, 2014, 12:26:24 PM »

Not sure why Barnabus is not in this deck. He is also a clay/green prophet. You could probably take out patience or something else for him, since he also searches for a lost soul. At this point you have enought green prophets to put in a Hidden Treasures. Also you already have gifts I your deck, so why not add Generous Giving? It would be a draw six for you. I am supposed that neither of the two new interrupt the battle/battle winner made it into your deck. You most definitely want to ad at least one of them

browarod · « **Reply #36 on:** December 26, 2014, 12:51:18 PM »

Quote from: Nameless on December 26, 2014, 12:26:24 PM

Not sure why Barnabus is not in this deck. He is also a clay/green prophet. You could probably take out patience or something else for him, since he also searches for a lost soul. At this point you have enought green prophets to put in a Hidden Treasures. Also you already have gifts I your deck, so why not add Generous Giving? It would be a draw six for you. I am supposed that neither of the two new interrupt the battle/battle winner made it into your deck. You most definitely want to ad at least one of them

I can't think of the names of those ItB/BW enhancements you mentioned offhand, any chance you could make an "Add: Remove:" list for your suggestions? Those are super helpful for me.

Nameless · « **Reply #37 on:** December 26, 2014, 01:29:06 PM »

Add:
Elymas Struck Blind
Preaching in the Synagogue
Hidden treasures
Barnabus
Generous Giving
Nunc Dinitis

Subtract:
Captured Ark
Bereans or Luke or Widows of Joppa
Burning of the Magic Books
Plague of Frogs
Patience
Not sure what else to take out.

browarod · « **Reply #38 on:** December 26, 2014, 02:45:36 PM »

Quote from: Nameless on December 26, 2014, 01:29:06 PM

Add:
Barnabus
Nunc Dinitis

Subtract:
Bereans or Luke or Widows of Joppa
Not sure what else to take out.

I've made all your changes except the above 2. I'm gonna need to get the deck in front of me (I'm at work atm) before I can figure out what to take out for the remaining 2 suggestions. Thanks for the tips!

browarod · « **Reply #39 on:** December 30, 2014, 11:58:08 PM »

I've taken a look through the deck again and I've replaced Bereans with Barnabas. I'm still not sure what to take out to put in Nunc Dimittis. I've also thought about trying to fit in Four-Drachma Coin to up the speed of the deck, but again not sure what to take out.

Any thoughts?

EDIT: Decided to take out Widows of Joppa to put in 4DC. Combos with Peter for draw, otherwise it's another target for Uzzah.

Master Q · « **Reply #40 on:** January 03, 2015, 08:47:11 PM »

Have you played any games to say if you like it better at 56 rather than 50? I was thinking of bumping my deck up to 56 rather than 50.

browarod · « **Reply #41 on:** January 04, 2015, 12:41:34 AM »

Quote from: Master Q on January 03, 2015, 08:47:11 PM

Have you played any games to say if you like it better at 56 rather than 50? I was thinking of bumping my deck up to 56 rather than 50.

I haven't, no. Don't really have any people nearby to play with, haha.

The Guardian · « **Reply #42 on:** January 04, 2015, 06:32:32 AM »

Quote from: browarod on January 04, 2015, 12:41:34 AM

Quote from: Master Q on January 03, 2015, 08:47:11 PM
Have you played any games to say if you like it better at 56 rather than 50? I was thinking of bumping my deck up to 56 rather than 50.
I haven't, no. Don't really have any people nearby to play with, haha.

Since you helped me test my T2 deck, I owe you a T1 game or two to help you test this deck.

Incidentally, I won T2 2P and the Hoppers proved to be the difference in the second game where I barely managed a 6-5 timeout win.

browarod · « **Reply #43 on:** March 09, 2015, 01:03:02 PM »

Apologies for the necropost but I'm looking again at this deck (after having looked through a Teal/Green deck I apparently still have built) and wondering if Spiritual Warfare would be a good add for this? Pre-block ignore is still pretty powerful these days, but I don't know what card I would take out for it.

Anybody have any thoughts?

Eragon5 · « **Reply #44 on:** March 09, 2015, 05:34:16 PM »

If you could show your deck as it is now that would be helpful. I tried going through the old posts, but there is too much to keep track of. If you could post your deck as it stands I'd be happy to give my two cents. However, off hand I would say spiritual warfare is a good card to have.

Nameless · « **Reply #45 on:** March 09, 2015, 05:42:49 PM »

There is nothing wrong with it. You already have Hidden Treasures. It is a good battle winner, as long as they are not use in demons.

browarod · « **Reply #46 on:** March 09, 2015, 07:06:34 PM »

Quote from: Eragon5 on March 09, 2015, 05:34:16 PM

If you could show your deck as it is now that would be helpful. I tried going through the old posts, but there is too much to keep track of. If you could post your deck as it stands I'd be happy to give my two cents. However, off hand I would say spiritual warfare is a good card to have.

The deck list in the very first post of this thread is accurate to the current configuration of the deck. I always update that one when I make changes.

Quote from: Nameless on March 09, 2015, 05:42:49 PM

There is nothing wrong with it. You already have Hidden Treasures. It is a good battle winner, as long as they are not use in demons.

Any thoughts on what I could take out to put SW in?

Gabe · « **Reply #47 on:** March 09, 2015, 07:16:55 PM »

Quote from: browarod on March 09, 2015, 07:06:34 PM

Any thoughts on what I could take out to put SW in?

I'd drop Prayer and Fasting.

browarod · « **Reply #48 on:** March 09, 2015, 08:09:49 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on March 09, 2015, 07:16:55 PM

Quote from: browarod on March 09, 2015, 07:06:34 PM
Any thoughts on what I could take out to put SW in?

I'd drop Prayer and Fasting.

I like that idea, thanks!

Eragon5 · « **Reply #49 on:** March 10, 2015, 09:40:54 AM »

Sorry, Browarod, I didn't know that it was updated. I would've suggested what Gabe said, but he beat me to it. However if you'd still like suggestions I might reccomend something. To make your defense stronger, you might want to take out sorrow of Mary since it won't directly lead to a block.
Take out
Sorrow of Mary
Substitute one of the following
Scribe, since your deck is offensive being able to underdeck two bears will be nice, especially if you topdeck it with Silas. Plus it can band to Proud Pharisee.
Tenants kill the son, with proud Pharisee it is an unstoppable combo, unless character negation is present.
Expelling the Jews, it will work well with your emperors against humans.
Three nails, unless negated and you have spiritual warfare, you have a potential uncontested block.

I may have a few more ideas, but these are by far the best. Obviously it is up to you whether these are potentially better than sorrow of Mary, but I think they are worth consideration.

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