Author Topic: Tournament deck (Read 3242 times)

xCaLeBx · « **on:** August 11, 2009, 09:42:49 PM »

help make this deck epic wyn! (No I will not use protection

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Cards in deck: 50
Lost Souls: 8
   Lost Soul (1st round)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (hopper)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (punisher)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 5
   Angel of the Lord
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   Harvest Time
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away

Fortresses: 1
   The Garden Tomb

Multi-Color Sites: 1
   The Ends of the Earth

Artifacts: 5
   Chariot of Fire
   Gifts of the Magi
   Holy Grail
   Three Nails
   Unholy Writ

White Covenant Cards: 1
   Captured Ark (Crimson)

White Heroes: 5
   Joseph of Arimathea
   Lydia
   Mary the Mother of James
   Salome
   Susanna

Gold Heroes: 1
   Moses

Green Heroes: 1
   Hur

Blue Heroes: 1
   Mary Magdalene

Purple Heroes: 2
   Ethiopian Treasurer
   John

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 2
   First Fruits
   Pentecost

White Hero Enhancements: 7
   A Child is Born
   Consider the Lilies
   'He Is Risen'
   Love at First Sight
   No Need for Spices
   Transfiguration
   Words of Encouragement

Purple Hero Enhancements: 2
   Authority of Christ
   Reach of Desperation

Brown Evil Characters: 1
   Uzzah

Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 1
   Worshipping Demons (Orange)

Orange Evil Characters: 2
King of Tyrus
Prince of this World

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 11, 2009, 10:00:19 PM »

The thing I see right away is that you don't need Mayhem. It doesn't work with gifts of the Magi. I don't think its necessary to have every single garden tomb hero (except peter). I would drop John and add Claudia and Ethiopian Treasurer. If John is your only purple hero you will never get initiative to play AoCP. Definitely I would replace Grapes of Wrath with Harvest Time. This looks like a speed TGT deck and all speed decks need Harvest Time and the Hopper (which you have) because you need to make sure there are always LS's to rescue otherwise you defeat the purpose of having speed. And with such minimal defense you need to win before your opponents gets too many rescue attempts. You can't afford to sit around and wait for your opponent to draw LS's. Grapes of Wrath is cool but it won't work well in this deck because the idea is that you will get off to a fast start and this will most likely have the most rescued LS's making Grapes of Wrath not work too well...those are my thoughts.

xCaLeBx · « **Reply #2 on:** August 11, 2009, 10:16:26 PM »

advice taken...anyone else?

crustpope · « **Reply #3 on:** August 11, 2009, 10:53:33 PM »

You only have one character that Sinning hand can be played on (PotW) it wont work on KoT. You might go with something else like Corrupted or Worshiping demons to get the CBN status out of it and then you can use it on KoT as well.

Three nails is gonna hurt you more than it will probably hurt your opponent. if you are going to keep it in, then switch out your other guys for Human EC's like Gomer, Philistine garrison, Emperor Nero, sabbath breaker etc

Mr.Hiatus · « **Reply #4 on:** August 11, 2009, 11:22:15 PM »

I would do King Amaziah, a 1/1 king, blessings, and Transfiguration and Moses instead of Hur, Love at first Sight, Consider the Lillies, Ark of the Covenant, and Claudia. That way you have some btn stuff, more cbn, and a more streamlined deck. As for my reasoning for taking out Ark of the Covenant, you want to score fast and you should be able to take out EC's. Holy Grail can get rid of guys with Horses on them, Ark would just take an extra turn that your defense can't hold out on.

xCaLeBx · « **Reply #5 on:** August 12, 2009, 09:44:06 AM »

Quote from: Mr.Hiatus on August 11, 2009, 11:22:15 PM

I would do King Amaziah, a 1/1 king, blessings, and Transfiguration and Moses instead of Hur, Love at first Sight, Consider the Lillies, Ark of the Covenant, and Claudia. That way you have some btn stuff, more cbn, and a more streamlined deck. As for my reasoning for taking out Ark of the Covenant, you want to score fast and you should be able to take out EC's. Holy Grail can get rid of guys with Horses on them, Ark would just take an extra turn that your defense can't hold out on.

Quote from: crustpope on August 11, 2009, 10:53:33 PM

You only have one character that Sinning hand can be played on (PotW) it wont work on KoT. You might go with something else like Corrupted or Worshiping demons to get the CBN status out of it and then you can use it on KoT as well.

Three nails is gonna hurt you more than it will probably hurt your opponent. if you are going to keep it in, then switch out your other guys for Human EC's like Gomer, Philistine garrison, Emperor Nero, sabbath breaker etc

advice taken somewhat: Sinning hand for worshiping demon-Transfig+moses for Claudia and Ark

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 12, 2009, 09:55:27 AM »

I will defend my reasoning for claudia. Unless I am incorrect about this being a speed deck...if you take claudia out you have no one to band to ethiopian treasurer. The way my speed deck works with drawing is I have books of hozai words and reach and i band maharai to claudia to ET and play all three of those. I see now you don't have book of hozai in here so it doesn't really matter then but then why even put in ET. I just don't see this deck drawing fast enough as it is, ESPECIALLY if you take out Hur. What will you do with ET? Attack and play reach and draw 3 and thats it? Maybe play AoCP? Then attack with white and play words and draw only 3 more? You do have those set asides but maybe take those out and add a book of hozai, prosperity or book of jaashar. I have a coat of many colors too so in case I get initiative with Hur I can use that and draw with him (yes that has happened before) and finish it off with AotLso you draw and win a LS with the only gree card in your deck! I put in a captain of the host and jacob for some BTN fun. And I have a Simeon (gold) in there so claudia can get incororated in that band so I go tribal elder to maharai to claudia to simeon to jacob to CotH. Plus I have my three garden tomb women and Hur. It has worked so far, I haven't lost yet (in 4 games I think) and none of those games were close. The plus side of Trasnsfiguration is its BTN with no banding. Its up to you in the end but that is my reasoning for keeping claudia.

crustpope · « **Reply #7 on:** August 12, 2009, 04:24:53 PM »

Quote from: xCaLeBx on August 12, 2009, 09:44:06 AM

advice taken somewhat: Sinning hand for worshiping demon-Transfig+moses for Claudia and Ark

Well, if you are going to do worshiping demons, you need an artifact depiciting an idol like A-pole or Unknown Nation in order for you to get hte CNB status from that enhancement. Corrupted would probably work better because you will already have an unoccupied site in play.

Smokey · « **Reply #8 on:** August 12, 2009, 04:26:10 PM »

Quote from: crustpope on August 12, 2009, 04:24:53 PM

Quote from: xCaLeBx on August 12, 2009, 09:44:06 AM
advice taken somewhat: Sinning hand for worshiping demon-Transfig+moses for Claudia and Ark
Well, if you are going to do worshiping demons, you need an artifact depiciting an idol like A-pole or Unknown Nation in order for you to get hte CNB status from that enhancement. Corrupted would probably work better because you will already have an unoccupied site in play.

It's CBN no matter what, the idol just protects all lost souls from rescue.

crustpope · « **Reply #9 on:** August 12, 2009, 04:28:16 PM »

Ah, ok, I missed that part of it. I usually play it with an idol up so that someone like trembling demon can still get the block even when they are dominated

lightningninja · « **Reply #10 on:** August 12, 2009, 04:34:54 PM »

Caleb... I could make this epic wyn if you give me a defense to work with. I. Just. Can't. Do. This!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, but seriously... this deck can only win so many percentages of games. Eventually since you have no defense you're gonna get smashed.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #11 on:** August 12, 2009, 05:32:44 PM »

That's only because it's slow and has no defense.

xCaLeBx · « **Reply #12 on:** August 12, 2009, 05:37:28 PM »

I usually can stall 3-4 turns

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #13 on:** August 12, 2009, 05:38:51 PM »

And in this deck that's not enough. 4 turns = 12 cards + 8 = 20 cards total drawn.

With only two ways to draw independantly (Words/Reach), and one way to draw dependantly (Hur + Gifts), your odds are bad.

xCaLeBx · « **Reply #14 on:** August 12, 2009, 05:43:45 PM »

3 independently including love at first sight and its done fair 20-5

lightningninja · « **Reply #15 on:** August 12, 2009, 07:04:14 PM »

Which is 80%.... not bad. Have you beaten any top players with it, like Maly, Kirk, Gabe, Rcousin?

xCaLeBx · « **Reply #16 on:** August 12, 2009, 10:01:11 PM »

I beat crustpope playing a TexP version of nats winning t1 2p deck...thats about it...

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