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Title: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 26, 2009, 08:42:17 PM
I really like this deck idea, because instead of the usual site decks which use multiple site colors, this deck uses only one - purple - and has lots of different ways to combat that color specifically. It still needs some work, though, especially on offense. :-\

Cards in deck: 70
Lost Souls: 9
   Lost Soul (anti-ignore)
   Lost Soul (Color Guard)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (site doubler)
   Lost Soul (site guard)
   Lost Soul (Speed Bump)
   Lost Soul (Thorns)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 4
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 5
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away
   Mayhem

Fortresses: 4
   High Places
   Kerith Ravine
   Kingdoms of the World
   Wall of Protection

Purple Sites: 8
   Patmos
   Patmos
   Patmos
   Patmos
   Patmos
   Patmos
   Patmos
   Pergamum

Artifacts: 3
   A2herah Pole
   Golden Calf

White Covenant Cards: 6
   Captured Ark (Crimson)
   Carcasses (Black)
   Confusion of Mind (Pale Green)
   Plagued with Diseases (Brown)
   Unknown Nation (Yellow)
   Wasting Disease (Brown)

Gold Covenant Cards: 1
   I am Healing

Blue Heroes: 2
   Asher
   Zebulun

Blue Hero Enhancements: 2
   Jacob's Dream
   Well Reopened

Black Evil Characters: 6
   Demon in Armor
   Lot's Wife
   Philistine Armor Bearer
   Philistine Garrison
   Simon the Magician
   The Twelve-Fingered Giant

Brown Evil Characters: 7
   Complainers
   Foul Spirit
   Gomer
   King Ahaz
   Morgan
   The Jeering Youths
   Unclean Spirit

Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 1
   Lying Unto God

Black Evil Enhancements: 7
   Danites Attack
   Goliath's Armor
   Land Dispute
   Overwhelmed by Philistines
   Philistine Chariot and Horses
   Pride of Simon
   Wrath of Satan

Brown Evil Enhancements: 6
   Destruction of Athaliah
   Face of Death
   Image of Jealousy
   Land Purchase
   Taking Naboth's Vineyard
   Weakness
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: juhnkect on August 27, 2009, 12:11:59 PM
I thought you were only allowed 3 duplicate cards if there is no sa. maybe switch out a few patmos w/ prison? The warriors frog demons is immune to purple. could be interesting to throw that in there..
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: Cameron the Conqueror on August 27, 2009, 12:16:26 PM
Nope, you can have unlimited sites

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Maximum of 3 of each in a deck:
Single-colored Heroes, Evil Characters and enhancements that do not have a special ability.
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: Kyp Henderson on August 27, 2009, 12:33:51 PM
I would add a storehouse if you play with Zebulun as the offense.  You could also add jacob and Reuben'as Torn Clothes.
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: Minister Polarius on August 27, 2009, 12:38:46 PM
Another Sitelock poops on this deck. I'd also recommend making it faster somehow or going to 63.
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: Kyp Henderson on August 27, 2009, 12:41:42 PM
Yah you could add Hur Gifts of the magi, and Interceding for battle to get hur out of the way and get rid of immunity.
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: jtay on August 27, 2009, 12:45:32 PM
I've contemplated making a brown/black site lock defense before.  One thing that I think you should consider is what if your opponent is using a chiefly purple offense?  While destruction of Athaliah is good, it can only be used a couple of times.  I would recommend going with red sites rather than purple.  Then you could throw in Bear (http://www.redemptionreg.com/REG/LinkedDocuments/Bear%20(DL).gif) and/or Sisera (http://www.redemptionreg.com/REG/LinkedDocuments/Sisera%20(Ki).gif) to help out.

Just my :2cents:.


EDIT:  Actually, Black does have Demon in Armor (http://www.redemptionreg.com/REG/LinkedDocuments/Demon%20in%20Armor%20(Pa).gif), so maybe you could just throw that in there and stick with the purple sites.  There might be other anti-purple brown or black characters that I'm not aware of as well.
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 27, 2009, 01:38:52 PM
I would add a storehouse if you play with Zebulun as the offense.  You could also add jacob and Reuben'as Torn Clothes.
I considered Storehouse, but I usually don't seem to need it when I put it in. As for Jacob and RTC, that isn't reliable enough to put in for just one combo, especially since I have the anti-ignore LS.

Another Sitelock poops on this deck. I'd also recommend making it faster somehow or going to 63.
I would love to make it 63. Any suggestions?

Yah you could add Hur Gifts of the magi, and Interceding for battle to get hur out of the way and get rid of immunity.
Um...no thanks. Hur + Gifts does not go well with this deck.

I've contemplated making a brown/black site lock defense before.  One thing that I think you should consider is what if your opponent is using a chiefly purple offense?  While destruction of Athaliah is good, it can only be used a couple of times.  I would recommend going with red sites rather than purple.
I have Goliath's Armor (better than Bear IMO because it's CBN and can go on someone with another ability), Overwhelmed by Philistines (again, CBN against purple), and three nukers: Destruction of Athaliah, Wrath of Satan (+ Pride of Simon to get it back if I need to), and PwD + Face of Death, plus a number of ways to make all those CBN. Is that not enough? Red would be even more difficult to pull of, since it has no equivalent to Destruction of Athaliah or Overwhelmed by Philistines.

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Actually, Black does have Demon in Armor (http://www.redemptionreg.com/REG/LinkedDocuments/Demon%20in%20Armor%20(Pa).gif), so maybe you could just throw that in there and stick with the purple sites.
Yeah, Demon in Armor might be a good idea. Thanks, I'll put that in.

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There might be other anti-purple brown or black characters that I'm not aware of as well.
Since purple has very little (often no) banding, Philistine Garrison is pretty awesome. Since red uses lots of banding, he wouldn't be as effective against that at all.
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 27, 2009, 01:43:03 PM
Deck Updated
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: Ironica on August 27, 2009, 03:44:47 PM
Another Sitelock poops on this deck. I'd also recommend making it faster somehow or going to 63.
I would love to make it 63. Any suggestions?

Add more offense would be the first thing that would come to my mind.
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 27, 2009, 03:49:15 PM
Interesting...I never thought that adding cards could make a deck smaller, but you may have something there! ;)
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: Ironica on August 27, 2009, 03:56:55 PM
Interesting...I never thought that adding cards could make a deck smaller, but you may have something there! ;)

 :doh:

I thought ya wanted to increase it :P.
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 27, 2009, 04:00:40 PM
My question is: Which negative cards should I "add"?
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: jtay on August 27, 2009, 04:01:26 PM
My apologies for not checking on the abilities of Goliath's Armor and Overwhelmed by Philistines before posting.

The only other card that I'm not so sure about is Destruction of Athaliah.  It does nuke purple heroes, but if you opponent isn't playing purple it's pretty much useless.  If you decide to shrink the deck some, that one might be a candidate for removal.
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 27, 2009, 04:15:31 PM
The only other card that I'm not so sure about is Destruction of Athaliah.  It does nuke purple heroes, but if you opponent isn't playing purple it's pretty much useless.  If you decide to shrink the deck some, that one might be a candidate for removal.
If my opponent doesn't use purple, I'm home-free! I just have to steal all their access sites (which I can do up to four times) and lock them out. Plus, I still have Wrath of Satan and Face of Death, and Overwhelmed by Philistines would still work even if it wasn't CBN.
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: Ironica on August 27, 2009, 06:14:54 PM
Also realize that if the rumors are true, PWD+FOD will be nerfed beyond reconition.
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: adamfincher on August 27, 2009, 06:48:08 PM
jusst do jacob with jakes dream and then you can juse asher to recurr it.
thats what briangabe taught me about sitelockign

2cents.
Title: Re: Black/Brown Super-Sitelock
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 27, 2009, 10:14:08 PM
Also realize that if the rumors are true, PWD+FOD will be nerfed beyond reconition.
I'm unfamiliar with the term "nerfed." Is it...bad? :P

jusst do jacob with jakes dream and then you can juse asher to recurr it.
I considered this, but I'm not sure if it's worth it to add Jacob just for that.
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