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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Type 1 Deck Advice => Topic started by: michael/michaelssword on December 22, 2008, 09:16:41 PM
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whatd'ya think?Cards in deck: 50
Lost Souls: 8
Lost Soul (anti-burial)
Lost Soul (Color Guard)
Lost Soul (Female Only)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (Protector)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Souls (2-line)
Lamb Dominants: 5
Angel of the Lord
Guardian Of Your Souls
Harvest Time
New Jerusalem
Son of God
Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
Burial
Christian Martyr
Doubt
Falling Away
Fortresses: 2
Kingdoms of the World
Stronghold in the Desert
Artifacts: 4
Burial Shroud
Chariot of Fire
Holy Grail
Priestly Crown
Multi-Color Heroes: 1
Seeker of the Lost
Silver Heroes: 1
Captain of the Host
Red Heroes: 9
Abishai
Amasai the Raider
Army of Simeonites
Caleb
Heldai
Jephthah
Men of Judah
Recruiting Officer
Zalmon
Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 1
The Stars
Red Hero Enhancements: 6
Battle Cry
Book of Gad the Seer
Counsel of Abigail
Holy Ground
The Battle is the Lord's
Warrior's Spear
Crimson Evil Characters: 1
Seven Sons of Sceva
Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 4
Corrupted (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Orange Evil Characters:4
Prince of this World
King of tyrus
trembling Demon
Seven Wicked Spirits
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I think this offense focuses too much on banding, and not enough on negating. Maharai Seems excessive to me, and Dodai's ability isn't backed up very well, as you have about three non-warrior-class Heroes. I would switch out Promised Land for Priestly Crown, and I would really get some more artifact-killers in there; Captured Ark might be the best choice. I also would get a Kingdoms of the World, since your EC's have no protection. Worshipping Demons is a great enhancement, and goes quite well with KoT; I would definitely put that in. (Last of all, I think you ment "King of Tyrus," not "King of this World." :P)
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Take out Jacob for Ira (kings) and take out one of the red RoA guys for Benaiah (kings). That gives you more tough fbtn banding.
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revised and cut down to 50
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You should try to fit in The Might of Faith and/or Holy Ground.
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fixed
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IMO you should use more battle winners, not just banding and negates. The banding may work against some defenses, but you'll come up against some decks you have to attack the traditional way (with battle winners). Freedom and Baggage are usually the best, even just those two would help. Also consider taking out some of your non-banding Red heroes and adding in small NT heroes. Honestly I think your banding chain is a bit excessive. You only need 3 or 4 heroes max to win most rescue attempts, and while having more can make it easier to get a chain out quickly, I wouldn't use all the banding heroes you have available. Heldai > Abishai > Caleb > Men of Judah > Army of Simeonites is simply a lot bigger than necessary, unless you plan to go up against a lot of Philistine banding defenses.
Take out Heldai at least, as he can only band to Abishai. I'd also take out Zalmon if I were you, he doesn't serve much of a useful purpose. I'd add some NT heroes, Chloe if you want a female or Epaphras if you don't, and maybe take out Recruiting Officer for Spy. I'd also take out The Stars and Counsel of Abigail for Freedom! and Baggage. Honestly, I think you should bump it up to 56 cards and have 7 Evil Characters and 7 Evil Enhancements, it will almost always work better.
Summary:
Out:
Heldai
Zalmon
Recruiting Officer
The Stars
Counsel of Abigail
In:
Chloe
Epaphras
Spy
Freedom!
Baggage
3 Evil Characters
3 Evil Enhancements
If I were you I'd choose one brigade for defense and use that, orange will work fine if you want to do that.
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well I tried a bunch of battle winners and no banding but didnt work out my big banding and tiny but strong defense has done exceptionally well surprisingly
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well I tried a bunch of battle winners and no banding but didnt work out my big banding and tiny but strong defense has done exceptionally well surprisingly
Which is why I'm saying you should use banding and a few battle winners. As you're not using FBTN banding most of the time, even having a battle winner will help from time to time when you're banding. Your defense may be tiny but strong, but a 15-card defense is going to be MUCH stronger than a 9-card one.
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Big bands with lots of negates isn't an original idea. I still recommend that you put in The Might of Faith, though. I mean, what would you do against KoT or Ananias & Sapphira with a big band initiated by Heldai? Just fall over dead? There are so many annoying EC's that could be stopped with this card. As for your defense, I think it looks okay, but I would certainly make a few changes. Maybe examine my Musician deck's (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=13427.0) defense for some inspiration; it works fantastically!