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Standard Philistines+Ztemple
« on: March 29, 2010, 04:08:57 PM »
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I realized that Philistines have a ton of staying power the other day, so I made this deck to see how well they stand up to solid offenses.

Cards in deck: 56
Lost Souls: 8
   Lost Soul (discarder)
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (hopper)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (Speed Bump)
   Lost Soul (Thorns)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 4
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 3
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away

Fortresses: 4
   Kingdoms of the World
   Philistine Outpost
   Temple of Dagon
   Zerubbabel's Temple

Artifacts: 5
   Altar of Dagon
   Book of the Covenant
   Lampstand of the Sanctuary
   The Bronze Laver
   Urim and Thummim

White Covenant Cards: 2
   Covenant with Levi (Teal)
   Covenant with Phinehas (Teal)

Multi-Color Heroes: 6
   Amariah the High Priest (Teal)
   Jaddua, son of Jonathan (Teal)
   Joiada, Son of Eliashib (Teal)
   Jonathan son of Joiada (Teal)
   Joshua the High Priest (Teal)
   Phinehas, son of Eleazar (Teal)

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 8
   Filling Zerubbabel's Temple (Teal)
   First Fruits
   Holy unto the Lord (Teal)
   Jehoiada's Strength (Teal)
   Jordan Interrupted (Teal)
   Pentecost
   Scapegoat (Teal)
   Zeal for the Lord (Teal)

Black Evil Characters: 7
   Fallen Warrior
   Goliath
   Lot's Wife
   Philistine Armor Bearer
   Philistine Garrison
   Philistine Priests
   The Twelve-Fingered Giant

Black Evil Enhancements: 9
   Bringing Fear
   Devourer
   Foolish Advice
   Joseph in Prison
   Land Dispute
   Overwhelmed by Philistines
   Philistine Chariot and Horses
   Pride of Simon
   Wrath of Satan

Advice?
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Re: Standard Philistines+Ztemple
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2010, 06:40:51 PM »
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My Philistine defense is almost exactly that except that I use Simon the Magician in place of Goliath. Having a more dependable block against TGT heroes is better IMO than having just another big Philistine, especially since your other big Philistines are recurrable enough. Also, he gives you the option of throwing in a Magic Charms, which can often win a battle from the sidelines, or even force your opponent to use AotL outside of battle.

Also, I have never found Philistine Chariot and Horses to be terribly useful. Think about it: of your eight other EE's, only three that will usually be played in battle are non-interrupts. It could be useful, but I might suggest using one more hero in place of it. Priests of Christ or Abiathar are good choices.
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Re: Standard Philistines+Ztemple
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2010, 01:47:04 PM »
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I don't like playing foolish advice when playing a philly defense.  I would take that out for burial. Also I would take out goliath and lot's wife for king amon and mannaseh and also add simon and magic charms so you can have two people to use it on.
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Re: Standard Philistines+Ztemple
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2010, 02:05:15 PM »
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Quote from: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on March 30, 2010, 01:47:04 PM
I don't like playing foolish advice when playing a philly defense.  I would take that out for burial. Also I would take out goliath and lot's wife for king amon and mannaseh and also add simon and magic charms so you can have two people to use it on.

Don't take out Lot's Wife. A ninja LW can effectively get rid of an opponent's Uzzah, The Amalekite's Slave, or Sabbath Breaker, and you get to reap the awesome benefits of any of those three. I have done this many times myself, and it is always worth it. In addition, she is at the very least a good initiative character to use Wrath on. King Amon is great, but I'd bet you'd use him maybe once or twice per game. And Foolish Advice is more useful than burial 98% of the time. Especially if you are using Lampstand.
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Re: Standard Philistines+Ztemple
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2010, 05:32:40 PM »
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Yeah, good advice on the Simon.

I use the horses more for the drawing (possibly multiple times) than anything else. More speed is always good imo.
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Re: Standard Philistines+Ztemple
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2010, 09:27:14 AM »
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Horses also come in real handy vs any of the Kings(the set not the theme) warrior FBTN banding chains.  With the exception of CotH I have shutdown many chains that use Ira, Benaiah, or The Strong Angel(Kings).  I don't know if you those alot, but in my current Meta I see them often.
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Re: Standard Philistines+Ztemple
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2010, 06:43:44 PM »
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not sure what you mean by discarder lost soul. is that the one from Tin 1?
I probably wouldn't use Speed Bump, since it could stab you in the back with Pentecost, First Fruits, Phili Horses and Joiada. Prof has a point though, Phili horses aren't that useful. you have Fallen Warrior when you need initiative.
I like this deck. a lot.
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Re: Standard Philistines+Ztemple
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2010, 12:51:18 PM »
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Quote from: Ring Wraith on April 09, 2010, 06:43:44 PM
not sure what you mean by discarder lost soul. is that the one from Tin 1?
I probably wouldn't use Speed Bump, since it could stab you in the back with Pentecost, First Fruits, Phili Horses and Joiada. Prof has a point though, Phili horses aren't that useful. you have Fallen Warrior when you need initiative.
I like this deck. a lot.

The discarder is the deck discarder ls. What happened if Fallen Warrior gets up in numbers? I always play philly chariot and horses, it gives me inititive each time.
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Re: Standard Philistines+Ztemple
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2010, 01:10:04 PM »
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According to the REG, the discarder LS is actually this one.

Type: Lost Soul • Brigade: • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: When you draw this card, you may discard an evil card from your territory to make an opponent discard a good card from hand or territory. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Psalms 119:150 • Availability: Faith of Fathers (Set 1)
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Re: Standard Philistines+Ztemple
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2010, 01:15:10 PM »
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oh my bad. i got confuzzled on that
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