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Politicaly Saavy is something to think about as it can return Bera to your hand.

I really like Sisera in any Canaanite defense. Moses is still one of the most popular Heroes in the game, and Sisera will beat him 60% of the time every time...Also, it allows you to get really creative if you like, by adding in Carcasses and Wrath. The last time I used Carcasses in my deck, it almost became like a Burial Shroud that allowed me to attack against a lot of offenses. Without Sisera, your only WC EC is Abimelech, which might not make Carcasses worth it though.

Also, Ehud is too good to not use in any offense with Judges, and Canaan is too good to not use in any deck with Canaanites...especially with Abimelech to take back your EC and Fortify Site to recur the Site.

I've always wondered, why do some people prefer Ehud in a Judges offense?

To me, any card that limits your opponent's options is a good add, and the natural benefit that gold Judges have with the angels is nice. His First Strike makes him significantly worse, of course, which is unfortunate, but he's still really good when combo'd with Canaan. I guess I could see why he's not as good in T1 where defenders aren't on the table as commonly, so it might be my T2 bias. But as a person who prefers balanced-to-defensive heavy builds, I can say that Ehud has wrecked me on more than one occasion by taking away the ability for me to present my best block. I'd probably always use him, even in T1, because of his potential.

Canaan allows you to capture a hero in territory at the cost of giving your opponent a Canaanite. So if they are not playing black you just choose that evil character to block.

Asahel could also be good for this purpose and to connect your red to your warrior-class judges.

If your Ehud defeats your own Gibeonite Delegates, whose Land of Bondage does it go to?

The opponent of the player who activated the ability, so Ehud's controller.

Politicaly Saavy is something to think about as it can return Bera to your hand.

Nice! That's a really creative idea, it would be great for Bera or Shechem!

I really like Sisera in any Canaanite defense. Moses is still one of the most popular Heroes in the game, and Sisera will beat him 60% of the time every time...Also, it allows you to get really creative if you like, by adding in Carcasses and Wrath. The last time I used Carcasses in my deck, it almost became like a Burial Shroud that allowed me to attack against a lot of offenses. Without Sisera, your only WC EC is Abimelech, which might not make Carcasses worth it though.

Also, Ehud is too good to not use in any offense with Judges, and Canaan is too good to not use in any deck with Canaanites...especially with Abimelech Ahimelek to take back your EC and Fortify Site to recur the Site.

I used to have Canaan and Ehud in my deck before it got Samuelized (yes, I actually went two whole games before the speed addiction kicked back in). Woman at the Well can even snatch out a beefy EC or Evil King to later be Chosen and/or Daggered. AwtSN makes him beastly... So I'll happily put Ehud back in!

Jordan, I read "Abimelech's" ability about 10 times trying to see how he helps me bring back my EC... then I went "wait I see what he did" lol. Cool idea! I always felt Canaan was too much cost for too little benefit. Killing a Thad outside of battle is like the only thing that I can really think of... Are there any of good reasons to use Canaan? I'm definitely open to the idea!

I'm not a big fan of Unknown Nation or TAS right now due to Nazareth (and to a lesser extend HSR). Maybe nobody in your area plays that card though.

The premise of this deck is to live without fear of Nazareth, and sadly yes it's used even in Missouri. An early Nazareth could mess up Unknown Nation though for sure! I'll definitely consider dropping it. Amalekite Slave sitting in my territory allows my Moses to attack FBTN. Then defending, I can throw them TAS and negate their heroes with my occupied tower (that works right? :/). I'd thought about adding Pharaohs Cupbearer for the same reason (plus resurrecting Shechem or Lots Wife... Potentially Lots Daughters)

At first I was frustrated with the idea of adding more unsupported red to an already scattered offense , but if I get Capturing Canaan into the deck I'll not only have another kill card that can be made CBN, but would work on Jail against Sisera.

I'm glad you brought up Cousel of Abigail though, under decking would be great. Would it be going too far down the slippery slope to switch Zaccheus to King Hiram (purple Canaanite, fortress search)? I could fit in Cousel... which would make me want to add United Army... Which would make me want to add Purple Saul... And that my friends is an example what Cody Cox and I branded "the slippery slope of redemption" way back lol. I better not.

And pass on a chance to bring my Foreign Wives or Woman of Thebez back?

Drrek,
Yeah that is often quite true, and I love the fact that Fortify Site can be flexible enough for both! It will be one of those cards I'll just have to decide how to use based the game and the deck I'm fighting.

Gabe,
I just saw a comment you made elsewhere about the usefulness of Battle Prayer to bring back Samuel's Edict (or my long time favorite, Ambush the City) so I decided to put that in the place of Gideon's Call... this deck really doesn't mind waiting for souls (plus Shechem and TAS could generate me some souls). Also thanks for all the other ideas and combos to consider, I never noticed that Agur's "from hand" portion works without Book!

Jordan,
I've been thinking on the Carcasses idea since you posted that yesterday. I'm afraid it would be hard to get out consistently in this deck as is, but if the defense makes any shift toward WC ECs (i.e. adding Evil Saul) I may put that in. In the last version of my "Red Warrior" type 2 deck, I ran Carcasses/Wrath with Philistines and usually played it in battle on Fallen Warrior so they didn't see it coming (the first time, haha).

Everybody,
Thanks for the advice, keep it coming! Am I okay going without Chariot of Fire and GoYS is that too risky? It's kinda fun to play with so few neutral/"sideline" cards, but I'm open to the idea of adding more artifacts and "accessory" cards.