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out:
Peter
Capt
TSA
striking herod

in:
Susanna
Johanna
feast of trumpets (b/c it makes opponent draw)
High Places

I agree that Abom will take more time to set up than this deck will usually have. I'd either beef up the offense or take it out. You can refer to a recent deck of mine for tips given to me on a similar idea.

Thank you all, so far, my Redemption family.  I've not yet made my final deck 'repair' and so please keep on with the critiques.

Godbless ALL!

I wouldn't. ITB+d/c> 2 discards.

Deck revised.

To those who have not seen this thread before, please share your new comments.

To those who have been part of the critique team (who I promise a McDonald's breakfast if you attend Nats):
a.  I haven't really done any changes to my silver offense.  Wrong or right?
b.  I took Hormah out.
c.  I unluckily was being ignored by Widow in practice I had.  I have but Uzzah to be able to enter battle.
b.  Why should I use Feast of Trumpets and High Places?

Thanks and Godbless!!!

Per some suggestions, deck revised 03/16/2010

Critique, please.

Thanks and Godbless!

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Cards in deck: 56
Lost Souls: 7
   Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (punisher)
   Lost Soul (site doubler)
   Lost Soul (Speed Bump)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 5
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 5
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away
   Mayhem

Fortresses: 3
   House in Bethany
   Philistine Outpost
   The Garden Tomb

Multi-Color Sites: 1
   Dragon Raid

Red Sites: 3
   Babylon
   Babylon
   Babylon

Green Sites: 1
   Babylonian Banquet Hall

Artifacts: 3
   Chariot of Fire
   Gifts of the Magi
   Samaritan Water Jar

Silver Heroes: 2
   Captain of the Host
   The Strong Angel

White Heroes: 2
   Mary the Mother of James
   Salome

Red Heroes: 2
   Peter
   Jepthah

Gold Heroes: 2
   Martha
   The Woman at the Well

Green Heroes: 1
   Hur

Purple Heroes: 2
   Widow
   John

Silver Hero Enhancements: 1
   Striking Herod

White Hero Enhancements: 2
   'He Is Risen'
   Transfiguration (*will take out; replace with ?)

Red Hero Enhancements: 1
   Battle Cry (*planning to take out)

Gold Hero Enhancements: 2
   Deborah's Directive
   Meeting the Messiah

Purple Hero Enhancements: 2
   Authority of Christ
   Reach of Desperation

Black Evil Characters: 3
   Philistine Garrison
   The Twelve-Fingered Giant
   Philistine Armor-Bearer

Brown Evil Characters: 1
   Uzzah

Orange Evil Characters: 1
   King of Tyrus

Black Evil Enhancements: 4
   Joseph in Prison
   Philistine Chariot and Horses
   Foolish Advice
   Bringing Fear

I don't quite understand the point of the sites. If you're not going to do lockout, then the Babylonian sites are probably not very useful. You might stall a few rescues, but since you have nothing to stop even Dragon Raid, they're not going to help.

Which leaves you with two options: Add some anti-access cards, or get rid of the sites for other cards.

If you want to go with the first option: Land Dispute can take out an access site, as can Danites Attack with High Places. Philistine Priests will negate two of the three access arts (Priestly Crown and Covenant with Levi), and he's a sneaky character to have in general for Philistines (he can negate Chariot or Lampstand until your opponent's next turn, which is always nice).

If you go with the second option, Philistine Priests would still be a good idea, as would Fallen Warrior. Both are generic Philstines (for Outpost) and both would be able to block Widow. I would also include a Wall of Protection; that card has gone in nearly every deck I've made, and I'm almost always very thankful it's there. Especially with your TGT heroes. If they can band to those guys, then you might find yourself being ignored as well. Devourer is another very effective black negate as well.

As far as using Feast of Trumpets and High Places, those were really only for when you were using Abom. Feast of Trumpets makes your opponent draw, and High Places allows you to place Abom outside of battle (since Greeks rarely get initiative in battle). Without Abom as a strategy, I wouldn't use either Feast or HP.

As for your silver offense, I don't think Striking Herod will help you too much. It was basically designed to be used with Michael, and while it may win you one FBTN mutual destruction, I'd bet you'll find you rarely use it. I would just as soon use a Gathering of Angels. It might take some time, but if you get it early, you can get some very nice combos going (Jephthah banded to a TGT hero for immediate results of territory destruction? Yes please). 9 times out of 10 TSA/Captain will either win by their own numbers, or lose by a CBN SA.

Anyway, good luck! Hopefully I'll be able to redeem my free McD's breakfast, but we'll have to see. 

apparently, you missed my post. you have a Transfig in there and no Moses.

Congratulations!

Deck of the Week

Quote from: drb1200 on March 20, 2010, 09:19:49 AM

Congratulations!
Deck of the Week

I like this idea.  Picking the best deck posted each week and posting them on your website for others to find good examples.  Please keep this up.

Thanks!  However, I still feel that this deck needs more tweaking especially that I still have difficulty against ultra-speed decks.  I also want it to be prepared for a bit more than speed.

Plus, this deck is a product of a concerted effort amongst generous players who have given their honest critiques.  Thank you, all!

I'm also eager to hear Gabe's input on this thread.

Gabe?

Godbless all!

I do suggest to keep the least of multicolor hero as possible, because with new cards and new things to go against multi color, it is really difficult for a speed to work, and if you are doing speed then you shouldn't have speed bumb in your deck, and in your speed deck, you need strong evil characters, you don't need too much enhancement, there are no need for sites, you do need few access sites and I do have you consider put in James, son of Zebedee, so when band to john, both Garden Tomb and House would work side by side. You need to put in Moses and Simeon in so then your speed can join with power. I made a deck similar to it, and the babylons and Babylonian banquet hall would not do so much. Lastly, good enhancement, you should keep transfiguration, put in gabriel meeting zachriah. That way banding will help a lot, and if you can put in King David. Thank you.

Michael Leung

Quote from: Michael_of_the_Star on March 22, 2010, 09:50:34 PM

I do suggest to keep the least of multicolor hero as possible, because with new cards and new things to go against multi color, it is really difficult for a speed to work, and if you are doing speed then you shouldn't have speed bumb in your deck, and in your speed deck, you need strong evil characters, you don't need too much enhancement, there are no need for sites, you do need few access sites and I do have you consider put in James, son of Zebedee, so when band to john, both Garden Tomb and House would work side by side. You need to put in Moses and Simeon in so then your speed can join with power. I made a deck similar to it, and the babylons and Babylonian banquet hall would not do so much. Lastly, good enhancement, you should keep transfiguration, put in gabriel meeting zachriah. That way banding will help a lot, and if you can put in King David. Thank you.

Michael Leung

Welcome back, Michael!

Well, it was not my intention to make my offense pure speed.  Any suggestions based on my latest reply?

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Brandon, thanks once more for your suggestions, as well.

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Godbless!

To against a ultra-speed deck, which is pretty possible, especially with the new ruling of only can held 16 cards in hand. Having speed bumb is good, but at the same time, you don't want to have speed neither. Currently, speed is not a good way to play, it may be good for multi still, but the best way is prevent them from drawing, and having mayhem could be a great choice. If you are going to against speed, then you should have defense that would stop any drawing, artifact negater, and strong offense to clean off a defense.
Hope you remember the deck I played you last time, although I beat you, but you should know if I don't get any good cards, I couldn't win, playing some kind of speed is always play by luck. Hope these can help, if I am not making myself clear, please tell me so I can reword it. Any advice please tell me. Thank you.

Michael Leung

Per some suggestions, deck revised 03/24/2010.  Critique, please.

To those who have been part of the critique team AND are active participants, I promise a McDonald's breakfast if you attend Nats.

Thanks and Godbless!

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CHANGES:
1.  Took out 'Meeting the Messiah'.
2.  Put in 'Overwhelmed by Philistines'.
3.  Took out 'Jephtah'.
4.  Put in 'Blessings'.

PLANS:
1.  Put in Haman's Plot (idea taken from the all-time most random card splash by Gabe!)
2.  Put in ANB. Not?
3.  Take out my 'red' offense (3 cards).  I plan to beef up offense in another way.  I have been nagged to take out 'Battle Cry'.
4.  Put in 'Land Dispute' ??  It's tempting...even as a splasher.
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Cards in deck: 56
Lost Souls: 7
   Lost Soul (cannot be prevented)
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (punisher)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (wanderer)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 5
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 5
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away
   Mayhem

Fortresses: 4
   House in Bethany
   Philistine Outpost
   The Garden Tomb
   Wall of Protection

Multi-Color Sites: 1
   Dragon Raid

Artifacts: 3
   Chariot of Fire
   Gifts of the Magi
   Samaritan Water Jar

Silver Heroes: 2
   Captain of the Host
   The Strong Angel

White Heroes: 2
   Mary the Mother of James
   Salome

Red Heroes: 1
   Peter

Gold Heroes: 2
   Martha
   The Woman at the Well
   Moses

Green Heroes: 1
   Hur

Purple Heroes: 2
   Widow
   John

White Hero Enhancements: 3
   'He Is Risen'
   Transfiguration
   Blessings

Red Hero Enhancements: 1
   Battle Cry

Gold Hero Enhancements: 1
   Deborah's Directive

Purple Hero Enhancements: 2
   Authority of Christ (promo)
   Reach of Desperation

Black Evil Characters: 5
   Philistine Garrison
   The Twelve-Fingered Giant
   Philistine Armor-Bearer
   Philistine Priests
   Fallen Warrior

Brown Evil Characters: 1
   Uzzah

Orange Evil Characters: 1
   King of Tyrus

Black Evil Enhancements: 6
   Joseph in Prison
   Philistine Chariot and Horses
   Foolish Advice
   Bringing Fear
   Devourer
   Overwhelmed by Philistines

Why did you take out Meeting the Messiah? That should be in any deck that includes even one Gold Luke/John Hero, and you have two (though I'm not sure if you need Martha). I would put that back in and take out Deborah's Directive: only four of your twelve heroes are OT humans, one of them being Moses who negates it, so I don't see it being very helpful. Especially if you do decide to keep Battle CXry, which does the same thing except it can bring in Captain.

Deck revised 03/25/2010.  Critique, please.

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Thanks Prof U., Ring Wraith.