Author Topic: A Hand Discarder that's maybe a little different? (Read 2481 times)

Minister Polarius · « **on:** April 18, 2010, 02:27:57 PM »

Cards in deck: 56
Lost Souls: 7
   Lost Soul (discarder)
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 5
   Angel of the Lord
   Glory of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away
   Mayhem

Fortresses: 3
   Chamber of Angels
   Rome
   The Tabernacle

Artifacts: 4
   Book of the Covenant
   Chariot of Fire
   Holy Grail
   Stone Pillar at Bethel

Blue Covenant Cards: 1
   I am Holy

Purple Covenant Cards: 1
   Covenant of Palestine

Silver Heroes: 4
   Angel at Shur
   Captain of the Host
   Gabriel
   The Strong Angel

Blue Heroes: 5
   Dan
   Ira
   Jacob
   Leah
   Simeon

Silver Hero Enhancements: 3
   Gathering of Angels
   Protection of Angels
   Striking Herod

Blue Hero Enhancements: 5
   Abraham's Servant to Ur
   Answer to Prayer
   Journey to Egypt
   Obedience of Noah
   Reuben's Torn Clothes

Gray Evil Characters: 7
   Emperor Galba
   Emperor Nero
   Emperor Vitellius
   Job's Wife
   Lying Spirit
   Sabbath Breaker
Terrifying Beast

Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 1
   Romans Destroy Jerusalem

Gray Evil Enhancements: 6
   Balaam's Disobedience
   Deadly Snare
   Gold Shield
   Heavy Taxes
   Namaan's Chariot and Horses
   Twice Afflicted

12tipton3 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 18, 2010, 11:12:14 PM »

i would try to add a harvest time, hopper and maybe a lampstand. but that's just me. other then that, it looks solid.

Captain Falcon · « **Reply #2 on:** April 25, 2010, 12:20:06 AM »

I would take out chamber for the hopper. other than that lookin good.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #3 on:** April 25, 2010, 01:38:59 AM »

Cept that would shut down his main hand d/c.

Captain Falcon · « **Reply #4 on:** April 29, 2010, 09:16:56 PM »

rightt

crustpope · « **Reply #5 on:** April 29, 2010, 10:19:22 PM »

I would add another female genesis, maybe for Ira. I just think you will be waiting for leah too much in order to get Simeon going.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #6 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:55:02 AM »

I would like another one, but there's no card in there I can see that's worse than Sarah. Ira is absolutely essential to speed up the attacking process, do you see anything else that could go out?

crustpope · « **Reply #7 on:** April 30, 2010, 08:29:44 AM »

No, Not really. ALl the other cards seem to have a solid purpose

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #8 on:** April 30, 2010, 09:58:05 AM »

FYI, BotC is not a Tabernacle artifact, so you might want to use Sol's Temple instead.

I would strongly suggest trying to find a way to fit in Burial, the Hopper, Harvest Time, and Emperor Augustus if possible. A Hormah (or maybe a PL) and a Site Discard LS would not be bad ideas either. Some cards I can see being taken out: Glory of the Lord, BotC, Covenant of Palestine (basically take out all originality

), Dan (He is really very useless more than half the time, since hopefully your opponent will always have fewer cards in hand than you), Gathering of Angels (It's nice...but it takes 4 turns), Emperor Vitellius (nice, but another 10/1 emperor is not as useful as a 10/11 one with a discard ability), and Deadly Snare (

).

OR, you could take out a couple of doms and go with Lampstand...ooh, I like that plan!

Professoralstad · « **Reply #9 on:** April 30, 2010, 10:16:09 AM »

Quote from: BubbleBoy on April 30, 2010, 09:58:05 AM

FYI, BotC is not a Tabernacle artifact, so you might want to use Sol's Temple instead.

Solomon's Temple's ability to hold an Artifact can be negated (by IoJ or DS) so I would go with Zerubbabel's Temple. Also, you have the added bonus of surprising your opponent when you have the Temple with none of the Priests.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #10 on:** April 30, 2010, 10:38:41 AM »

BotC is a Tabernacle but is not a Temple art? o_0 Are you sure that's not an REG type-o? If that is the case, then I'll cry, because otherwise I can't really do this deck (I need to be protected from my own RDJ, but Solomon's Temple is negatable). Burial is not going in (wasted slot SO often), Hopper and HT aren't really needed (this is a control deck, not aggro) and Gathering stays for about the same reason.

I see your point about Dan, but he's the only hand-Discarder Hero who can work under his own steam. I'm on the fence. I don't really know why Deadly Snare is in there tbh. I think maybe that was supposed to be a different card and I took the wrong one out.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #11 on:** April 30, 2010, 10:50:33 AM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on April 30, 2010, 10:38:41 AM

(I need to be protected from my own RDJ ...)

I hate to be the one to break this to you, but...

Quote from: REG > Card Index > Glory of the Lord

Type: Lamb • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Place in territory. Holder's Solomon's Temple and the artifact in it cannot be discarded or negated by an opponent. Discard this card if Asherah Pole is in holder's Solomon's Temple. • Play As: Place in territory. Holder’s Solomon’s Temple and the artifact in it are protected from being discarded or negated by an opponent. Discard this card if Asherah Pole is in holder’s Solomon’s Temple. • Identifiers: None • Verse: II Chronicles 7:1 • Availability: Kings booster packs (Ultra Rare)

I was wondering why you would put so much effort into getting your Temple all set up if you had a card that would just discard it anyway...

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #12 on:** April 30, 2010, 09:02:34 PM »

Woah. Ha, this deck is nertz. Back to the drawing board.

Korunks · « **Reply #13 on:** May 03, 2010, 08:29:18 AM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on April 30, 2010, 10:16:09 AM

Quote from: BubbleBoy on April 30, 2010, 09:58:05 AM
FYI, BotC is not a Tabernacle artifact, so you might want to use Sol's Temple instead.

Solomon's Temple's ability to hold an Artifact can be negated (by IoJ or DS) so I would go with Zerubbabel's Temple. Also, you have the added bonus of surprising your opponent when you have the Temple with none of the Priests.

I believe this is actually wrong, according to the REG Solomon's temple Has an identifier that holds an artifact. Behold:

Quote

Solomon’s Temple

Type: Fortress • Brigade: Multicolor • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Holder may activate a second Artifact from Artifact pile or hand on this Fortress if that Artifact was found in Solomon's Temple. Artifact takes immediate effect. • Identifiers: Holds one Artifact • Verse: I Kings 6:1 • Availability: Patriarchs booster packs (Rare)

emphasis mine.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #14 on:** May 03, 2010, 08:39:41 AM »

Well that can't be right. According to that, ST can hold any Artifact if the SA is Negated.

Korunks · « **Reply #15 on:** May 03, 2010, 08:44:39 AM »

well it wouldn't be the first time the REG was wrong, but I wonder if we can get away with using it that way for now

crustpope · « **Reply #16 on:** May 03, 2010, 09:03:16 AM »

So setaside and angel with Proteciton of Jerusalem, Select Solomons Temple. Then use High places to place destructive sin/spreading mildes..any fortress negate on your temple or (with destructive sin) own hero. and then use ST to simply hold ANY other artifact....

Hmmm... how can this be abused? wow in type 2 you could have 2 hidden treasures up at the same time. 2 Holy grails up at the same time, Hezekiahs signet ring and Darius's Decree.

I am sure there is a combination here that would be really sick, I just dont have time to think of it...

Professoralstad · « **Reply #17 on:** May 03, 2010, 09:48:13 AM »

As I posted in the other thread:

Quote from: REG>Glossary>Duplicate Cards

All Artifact, Covenant, Curse, and Fortress cards are considered unique. A player may control only one of these at any time.

Also, that's really weird that that is an identifier. Even if ST did have an identifier, I'm sure it will be changed/officially ruled incorrect, and will say "Holds one temple Artifact." If the Ithamar debate taught us anything, it's that fun with Artifacts is not allowed.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #18 on:** May 03, 2010, 12:22:02 PM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on May 03, 2010, 09:48:13 AM

As I posted in the other thread:

Quote from: REG>Glossary>Duplicate Cards
All Artifact, Covenant, Curse, and Fortress cards are considered unique. A player may control only one of these at any time.

Also, that's really weird that that is an identifier. Even if ST did have an identifier, I'm sure it will be changed/officially ruled incorrect, and will say "Holds one temple Artifact." If the Ithamar debate taught us anything, it's that fun with Artifacts is not allowed.

Still with IOJ the Spreading mildew on Tabernacle that was thought up back in priests can now be permanently abused.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #19 on:** May 03, 2010, 06:46:57 PM »

It allows you to have Lampstand, Holy of Holies, and Crown of Thorns up

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #20 on:** May 03, 2010, 06:58:50 PM »

The Warrior · « **Reply #21 on:** May 03, 2010, 07:08:36 PM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on May 03, 2010, 06:46:57 PM

It allows you to have Lampstand, Holy of Holies, and Crown of Thorns up

just add Fbtn=break game

Professoralstad · « **Reply #22 on:** May 03, 2010, 07:28:39 PM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on May 03, 2010, 06:46:57 PM

It allows you to have Lampstand, Holy of Holies, and Crown of Thorns up

Now if only there was a way to decrease a demon's strength permanently...

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Author Topic: A Hand Discarder that's maybe a little different? (Read 2481 times)

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