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a spoonfull of genegyptains helps the opponents go down ;)
« on: August 22, 2012, 02:02:30 AM »
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corny title ik just made that for humorous reasons but here's my genegyptains deck now keep it mind, i DID NOT build this deck. this deck was built before t1 2 player of day 2

doms
nj
sog
aotl
goys
cm
mayhem
don

arts
cof

multi
7 years of plenty
lying unto God

fortresses
wop
storehouse

sites
dragonraid
egypt

lost souls
hand discard
revealer
female only
wanderer
site doubler
shuffler
speed bump

silver heroes
coth

green heroes:
abel

green enhancements:
creation of the world
love for rachel

blue/green
joseph

blue
benjamin
simeon
zebulun
dan
jacob
rachel

blue enhncements
reuben's torn clothes
joseph before pharaoh
journey to egypt
answer to prayer
sign of the rainbow
abraham's decendant
forgivenesss of joseph
numerous as the stars

gold/pale green evil characters
pharaoh's magicians

gold ecs
kot
the dreaming pharoah
pharoah's baker
pharoah's cupbearer
egyptain archer
egyptain wise men
egyptain charioteers

gold evil enhancements
mask of fear
take as a slave
rizpah's sackloth
wonders forgotten
enslaved by egypt
besieging the city
moses kills egyptain
swift horses

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Re: a spoonfull of genegyptains helps the opponents go down ;)
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2012, 11:37:45 PM »
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Recommend against Jubilee, as Abe's Kids will meet all your recurring needs. Def pro-Storehouse, though.

Just looking at it quickly, get rid of Enslaved by Egypt, Egypt, Lying unto God, Priestly Crown, Dragon Raid, Sign of the Rainbow, King So, Egyptian Archer, CoF, Take as a Slave, Rizpah's Sackcloth, Reuben, Wise Men, Charioteers, Obedience of Noah, Covenant with Noah and Evil Spirit

and add

Storehouse, Judah, Abel, Creation of the World, Journey to Egypt, Stone Pillar at Bethel, Captured Ark, Egyptian Horse and Chariot, TAS, Hormah, Hopper and Failed Objective.

Lost Souls spread should be:
Revealer
Female
FbtN
Lost Souls
Wanderer
N.T.
CBP

Dom spread:
SoG
NJ
AotL
GoyS
Mayhem
FA
Grapes
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Re: a spoonfull of genegyptains helps the opponents go down ;)
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2012, 12:17:50 AM »
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Recommend against Jubilee, as Abe's Kids will meet all your recurring needs. Def pro-Storehouse, though.

Just looking at it quickly, get rid of Enslaved by Egypt, Egypt, Lying unto God, Priestly Crown, Dragon Raid, Sign of the Rainbow, King So, Egyptian Archer, CoF, Take as a Slave, Rizpah's Sackcloth, Reuben, Wise Men, Charioteers, Obedience of Noah, Covenant with Noah and Evil Spirit

and add

Storehouse, Judah, Abel, Creation of the World, Journey to Egypt, Stone Pillar at Bethel, Captured Ark, Egyptian Horse and Chariot, TAS, Hormah, Hopper and Failed Objective.

Lost Souls spread should be:
Revealer
Female
FbtN
Lost Souls
Wanderer
N.T.
CBP

Dom spread:
SoG
NJ
AotL
GoyS
Mayhem
FA
Grapes
no grapes, no cbp soul and a few other cards i don't have
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Re: a spoonfull of genegyptains helps the opponents go down ;)
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2012, 01:48:13 AM »
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Obviously modify the list if you don't have certain cards, but what you're looking at there is an A-grade Geneptians deck.

If you do nothing else, get rid of the cards on my list (CoF can stay if Judah is one of the Heroes you don't have, and some of the site access can stay if you don't have Abel, Creation of the World and Journey to Egypt).
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Re: a spoonfull of genegyptains helps the opponents go down ;)
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2012, 02:22:04 AM »
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Obviously modify the list if you don't have certain cards, but what you're looking at there is an A-grade Geneptians deck.

If you do nothing else, get rid of the cards on my list (CoF can stay if Judah is one of the Heroes you don't have, and some of the site access can stay if you don't have Abel, Creation of the World and Journey to Egypt).
got it, but dropping most of my defense is gonna hurt me defensively since i don't have  many to defend with and even if i didn't band to egyptains im still looking at a possible aot, convert, immune, ignore, discard and removal of the game
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Re: a spoonfull of genegyptains helps the opponents go down ;)
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2012, 01:34:53 PM »
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The point of the defense in a Geneptians deck is to draw a lot and get a few easy blocks via Wonders Forgotten and Failed Objective. You can easily expect to draw 11 cards off the defense in a given game, and when combined with the speed of the offense you should be able to win with just the two reliable blocks.

Side-note, make sure your AotL is the O.T. one so you can get it with Stone Pillar.
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2012, 01:46:12 PM »
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The point of the defense in a Geneptians deck is to draw a lot and get a few easy blocks via Wonders Forgotten and Failed Objective. You can easily expect to draw 11 cards off the defense in a given game, and when combined with the speed of the offense you should be able to win with just the two reliable blocks.

I totally agree but would personally add besieging the city if you playin  when u have initiative and die its a block for the next turn and your opponent doesn't draw.
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Re: Re: a spoonfull of genegyptains helps the opponents go down ;)
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2012, 06:01:45 PM »
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The point of the defense in a Geneptians deck is to draw a lot and get a few easy blocks via Wonders Forgotten and Failed Objective. You can easily expect to draw 11 cards off the defense in a given game, and when combined with the speed of the offense you should be able to win with just the two reliable blocks.

I totally agree but would personally add besieging the city if you playin  when u have initiative and die its a block for the next turn and your opponent doesn't draw.

I've never really thought much about that card in T1, but I agree its just about as good as another Failed Objective (perhaps even better because it restricts drawing too...)

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Re: a spoonfull of genegyptains helps the opponents go down ;)
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2012, 08:19:42 PM »
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Besieging the City is a Time Walk. Just play it when the opponet has at least two lost souls in play and has less than two lost souls rescued.
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Re: a spoonfull of genegyptains helps the opponents go down ;)
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2012, 08:25:24 PM »
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What a fantastic card! I can't believe I'd never thought of it before. Drop it right before a FO or WF and not only deny the rescue this turn, but also next turn with the added benefit of a -3 to the opponent's speed. Brilliant!
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2012, 08:33:17 PM »
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The awesome thing is that they can't even enter battle in a BC to draw off heroes either.

Plus if u get past them with a specific hero the turn before you know u can get through again bc they didn't have an answer the first time. BTC is my favorite card to play with Egyptians and
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Re: a spoonfull of genegyptains helps the opponents go down ;)
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2012, 08:41:01 PM »
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my confusion meter just exploded up through the roof *explosion occurs*
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2012, 08:55:55 PM »
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Besieging the City
Gold evil enhancement (-/-)

Opponent may not draw or make a rescue attempt next turn.


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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2012, 09:08:43 PM »
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Obviously modify the list if you don't have certain cards, but what you're looking at there is an A-grade Geneptians deck.

If you do nothing else, get rid of the cards on my list (CoF can stay if Judah is one of the Heroes you don't have, and some of the site access can stay if you don't have Abel, Creation of the World and Journey to Egypt).
curious as to why Journey to Egypt should be in?  If he's not defending against another egyptian deck it would be pointless don't you think?  Just an opinion...;)

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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2012, 12:10:56 AM »
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It's a utility card. Guaranteed site access if he should happen to run into sites, with the added bonus of killing mirror decks. Some Genesis offenses don't use it, but I think the security of never getting jilted by a rogue Silver Site defense is worth the cardslot.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2012, 02:22:43 AM »
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I owe a lot to Besieging the City considering it was the reason I started making t2 combo decks. :) one of the best cards in the game.

About Journey to Egypt, I consider it to be the most reliable site access card in the game. Your opponent can negate/discard your access site or artifact or negate your hero's access ability, but JtE is cannot be negated as the ability was gained on a previous turn. Asher and Abraham's Descendant allow you to recur JtE multiple times in one game so all your favorite heroes can gain access. Namely the 4 best: Joseph, Jacob, Zebulun, and Benjamin. Rarely will I ever play JtE on a blue hero not mentioned in the prior sentence.

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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2012, 04:15:11 AM »
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It's a utility card. Guaranteed site access if he should happen to run into sites, with the added bonus of killing mirror decks. Some Genesis offenses don't use it, but I think the security of never getting jilted by a rogue Silver Site defense is worth the cardslot.
you have a good point there, pol. i have ran into mirror decks before, most recently, my notorious type 1 game in the 7th round at nationals against none other then our dear friend and brother in christ, Mark Underwood, and needless to say i made the wrong choice by playing genegyptains against him, should have played TGT, it was nearly UNSTOPPABLE. granted this is the first deck i've ever built to have such a capacity to do that which says alot coming from a player like ME for those who actually KNOW my reputation in the redemption community to be the type that's a lovable loser and has a knack for being one that doesn't build tournament winning decks, doesn't have a particular clue as to what strategy to use to actually win a game, and just being the target for all redemption players to target for a garentee'd win, and i know for a fact, most of you know these facts about me, but i've come to realize at nats thanks to you and other players within the game who give me their support and also with God's support and blessing, i was able to come up with an impressive record of 6-4 with a bye in the 3rd round, 3 game win streak from rounds 4-6, which really does say something about me in this game, that even though i tend to lose, im still fighting and working hard to get better and being the best player i can be with the card supply given to me. and im never gonna stop working hard to get over my mistakes, make my decks better, and build up my mentality whenever things go wrong in a game. and as far as being a lovable loser goes; i would rather be a lovable loser then a hated winner

my deck is now modified, and pol i must say i have some of the cards you suggested i put in but as far as cards taking out, i left them in there for a purpose and if you please, could you take a closer look at my deck to see what i have in mind for strategy, that you were so quick to suggest what to take out?
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Re: a spoonfull of genegyptains helps the opponents go down ;)
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2012, 03:13:46 PM »
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If you want to make your deck as good as possible, you've been told how. If you want to include specific cards for specific reasons not related to how good your deck is, put it in completed decks.
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2012, 03:46:22 PM »
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What a fantastic card! I can't believe I'd never thought of it before. Drop it right before a FO or WF and not only deny the rescue this turn, but also next turn with the added benefit of a -3 to the opponent's speed. Brilliant!

It works great with FO it's a little tougher to drop it and get a block out of WF
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2012, 04:22:22 PM »
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Agreed, but I'm a big fan of dropping some form of horses then WF. If they're not attacking with a Banding chain or FbtN (it happens sometimes!), getting a +6 or 7 to your defense will almost always net a successful block.
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2012, 12:29:03 AM »
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Agreed, but I'm a big fan of dropping some form of horses then WF. If they're not attacking with a Banding chain or FbtN (it happens sometimes!), getting a +6 or 7 to your defense will almost always net a successful block.

Perhaps my favorite play with Egyptians is baker to draw 3 to Magician to do his thing to archer to snipe to cupbearer to generate a soul then dreaming to draw three with horses to play the swift horses for draw 5 to WF

I know it's a lot but this happens for me rather often bc of the speed of the Egyptians
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2012, 01:14:30 AM »
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im suprised nobody has said my deck needed pharoah's throne room
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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2012, 02:10:59 AM »
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Ehhh if u were using an offense that played AoCP then sure but I wouldn't sweat it.
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Re: a spoonfull of genegyptains helps the opponents go down ;)
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2012, 02:50:27 AM »
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Ehhh if u were using an offense that played AoCP then sure but I wouldn't sweat it.
funny you should say that cause i just tested my genegyptians in a game against TGT and two problems occured during the game that i feel should be resolved;

1. aocp was used against genegyptains

and 2. my genegyptains is lacking a 2nd pale green evil character, i feel i should take out my green, put in a pale green, and put in pharoah's throne room
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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2012, 03:27:48 PM »
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You're not playing Geneptians, you're playing a Genesis offense with a Gold defense. AoCP is giving problems because you just have too bulky a defense with tons of pork characters and enhancements. AoCP wouldn't be a thing if you were running Geneptians.
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