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Hey all.  So this is my first attempt at creating a deck designed to discard opponents deck/hand.  I have already spoken to Minister P. who gave me some sound advice that you can either build a deck to discard from their deck or hand.....but not both or you will do neither well.  Good advice.  I wanted to throw it out to the community to get some CONSTRUCTIVE criticism and ideas.  Please keep in mind, that I have been playing Redemption since before it was created..(not really...maybe three weeks).  So when you are explaining tricks and cards, please use laymen terms or i may not understand.  Thanks all

Cards in deck: 56
Lost Souls: 8
   Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
   Lost Soul (deck discard)
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (hopper)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Soul (Site Discard)
   Lost Soul (site doubler)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 5
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 5
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away
   Mayhem

Fortresses: 2
   Rome
   Stronghold in the Desert

Multi-Color Sites: 2
   New Jerusalem (site)
   The Ends of the Earth

White Sites: 1
   Jericho

Blue Sites: 1
   Roman Prison

Artifacts: 2
   Chariot of Fire
   Gifts of the Magi

Silver Heroes: 1
   Gabriel

Red Heroes: 1
   Chloe

Gold Heroes: 4
   Israelite Archer
   The Generous Widow
   Tola
   Zaccheus

Green Heroes: 1
   Hur

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 4
   Burning Censer
   Burning up the Chaff
   Fountains of Living Water
   Shoes of Peace

Red Hero Enhancements: 1
   Harvest, The

Gold Hero Enhancements: 2
   Wedding Party
   Well Reopened

Green Hero Enhancements: 2
   Search
   Two Bears

Crimson Evil Characters: 1
   Red Dragon

Gold Evil Characters: 1
   Evil Spawn

Gray Evil Characters: 4
   Emperor Galba
   Emperor Vitellius
   King Menahem
   Sabbath Breaker

Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 1
   Expelling the Jews

Crimson Evil Enhancements: 2
   Coliseum Lions
   Stormy Seas

Gold Evil Enhancements: 1
   Begging to go Back

Gray Evil Enhancements: 4
   Chains
   Deluge of Rain
   Dishonest Trader
   Heavy Taxes

And P. Thanks for the advice

For defense def use egyptians. They are a beast with that. then play burning up a chaff to remove all of the but lost souls from the game. Sweet!!!

Quote from: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on October 08, 2009, 12:50:57 AM

For defense def use egyptians. They are a beast with that. then play burning up a chaff to remove all of the but lost souls from the game. Sweet!!!

Those egyptians sure do like discard 

I pair it with prophets and hidden treasure. Great combo.

Oops....forgot to add

Cards in deck: 56
Lost Souls: 8
   Lost Soul (discarder)
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (hopper)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Soul (Site Discard)
   Lost Soul (site doubler)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 4
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 5
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away
   Mayhem

Fortresses: 1
   Rome

Multi-Color Sites: 1
   Promised Land

Blue Sites: 1
   Hormah

Artifacts: 2
   Chariot of Fire
   Stone Pillar at Bethel

White Covenant Cards: 2
   Captured Ark (Crimson)
   Confusion of Mind (Pale Green)

Blue Heroes: 8
   Asher
   Benjamin
   Dan
   Jacob
   Leah
   Levi
   Simeon
   Zebulun

Blue Hero Enhancements: 8
   Abraham's Servant to Ur
   Answer to Prayer
   Buying Grain
   Jacob Buries the Foreign gods
   Jacob's Dream
   Numerous as the Stars
   Obedience of Noah
   Reuben's Torn Clothes

Gray Evil Characters: 8
   Emperor Augustus
   Emperor Galba
   Emperor Nero
   Emperor Otho
   King Menahem
   Lying Spirit
   Sabbath Breaker
   The Entrapping Pharisees

Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 2
   Expelling the Jews
   Romans Destroy Jerusalem

Gray Evil Enhancements: 6
   Balaam's Disobedience
   Deluge of Rain
   Gold Shield
   Heavy Taxes
   Namaan's Chariot and Horses
   Night Raid

Good ratio. It looks really good imo. Have you tested it yet?

yeah...problem is I'm not any good!!! LOL.  Seems like it's okay.  Guess I just thought it would work better than it seems to be.  Can't quite put my finger on it yet though

You just need to know how the deck plays. Once you find that out, then it would work better for you. When I put my decks together, I always think how could this deck play and why is it put the way it is? That always helps me to figure out how to play it and what not to do

Thanks.  I think more than anything I just need to keep playing despite losing.  I will learn the tricks of my deck pretty quickly i think.  thanks. 

Quote from: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on October 29, 2009, 11:43:11 AM

You just need to know how the deck plays. Once you find that out, then it would work better for you. When I put my decks together, I always think how could this deck play and why is it put the way it is? That always helps me to figure out how to play it and what not to do

Thanks.  I think more than anything I just need to keep playing despite losing.  I will learn the tricks of my deck pretty quickly i think.  thanks. 

It is ok to lose. Trust me I lost a lot. You learn more through losing than you do winning. The key is to learn from your mistakes and fix them so you dont repeat them. One of mine was that my friend plays moses-transfig deck and he only has access w/ war officer and moses on my kir. So i save CM for war and throw the women ls in Kir. He gets locked out. I stuff pergamum and take his assyria and he can't get a soul XD

sorry xp. Transfiguration allows you to band in moses yellow 8/8 fight by the numbers and elijah. It cannot be ipn'd So you have two extra characters with huge numbers in a fbn ra. And you use lost coin found and moses and elders to bring it back. It is crazy. Kir is a TexP yellow site which is good against choose the blocker. I put the woman ls in there so moses doesn't have access to it.