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Offline Jathen

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Deck in need of help
« on: September 07, 2010, 11:04:27 PM »
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Hello All,

I've been working on this deck for a bit but I think it could use some paring down. I would most appreciate advice on what to remove as opposed to what cards to add as it contains the best cards in my collection. However I am still willing to accept such help. Here is the breakdown,

Dominants
Angel of the Lord
Son of God
Burial
Christian Martyr

Heroes:

Multi-Color:
Soldier of God

Purple:
King David
John
Thomas
James, son of Zebedee

Teal:
Ahimelech, Priest at Noh
Amariah, the High Priest


Silver:
Gabriel (Disciples)
Messenger Angel
Angel of Deliverance
Captain of the Host

White:
Lydia (H Deck)

Gold:
Zaccheus

Blue:
Jacob

Good Enhancements:

Purple:
Reach of Desperation
A New Commandment
River Flowing From the Temple
The Word Spreads
Sons of Thunder
Glittering Sword
Authority of Christ
Prosperity

Silver:
Witnesses to Creation
Weapon of the Holy
Hammer of Heaven
Gathering of Angels
A Mighty Blow
Death of Firstborn
Wings
Captain’s Sword

Teal:
Covering the Sacred Things
Jordan Interrupted
Grain Offering
Ezra’s Journey

Multi-Color:
Pillar of Fire
Ears to Hear
Burning up the Chaff
Preaching the Truth
Pillar of a Cloud


Blue:
Courage

Red:
Wheel Within a Wheel

Evil Characters:

Grey:
Syrian Archer
Panic Demon
The False Prophet

Black:
Amaziah, the Ungodly Priest
Panic Demon
Abaddon the Destroyer
Lot’s Daughters


Pale Green:
Panic Demon
King Tiglah-Pileser III

Evil Enhancements:

Multi-color:
Lying Unto God
Sun Worship
Murmuring
Love of Money


Black:
Ancient Evil
Wrath of Cain
Pride of Simon
A Look Back
Coercion
Babel
Net
Denying Blame

Grey:
Chains
Deceptive Sin
Snare
Dart (Kings)
Bow and Arrow
Syrian Victory
Foreign Enemy

Pale Green:
Chariots of the Sun (Kings)
Foolishness of Five Virgins
Stocks
Large Tree
Darkness


Covenants:

I Am Truth
The New Covenant
Covenant with Moses
Covenant of Salt


Artifacts:

Household Idols
Wool Fleece
Altar of Ahaz
King’s Sword
Holy of Holies
Golden Calf
Priestly Breastplate
Tables of the Law

Sites:

Hostile Environment
Roman Prison
Samaria

Fortresses:

David’s Tent
Raiders Camp

Lost Souls:

White Beggar x10
Luke 19:10
Lost Souls (Two Lines)
I Corinthians 1:27 (When put in site, opponent must discard card from hand)
Jeremiah 7:18 (Only Women)
Galatians 3:13 (When in land of redemption, Burial cannot be used on user’s lost souls)

Thanks for your time.
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Re: Deck in need of help
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2010, 12:38:54 PM »
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Bump
(are we allowed to do that?)
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Re: Deck in need of help
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2010, 12:54:25 PM »
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Quote from: Jathen on September 08, 2010, 12:38:54 PM
Bump
(are we allowed to do that?)
yeah. deck doesn't look so hot though.
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Re: Deck in need of help
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2010, 01:45:54 AM »
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LOL, RED, you need to be a little more constructive than that.

Jathen, there are a few problems with your deck.
1) One of the best things about Type 2 is that you can use multiples in your deck. For example, you can have 5 characters and enhancements (as long as they aren't multicolored) in a 100 card deck. Therefore instead of 1 per 50 (Type 1), you can have 5 per 100 or 1 per 20. Better odds to get your better cards or focus on certain strategies. If you don't have multiples, I would suggest just sticking to Type 1 for now. Because your deck is currently Type 1 legal.

2) Way too many colors. Typically, you want to focus on 1 or 2 Good colors and 1 or 2 evil colors. Less colors = better chance to match Characters and Enhancements. Especially in a 100+ card deck. The best example is that you have one Red Hero (Soldier of God) and one Red Enhancement (Wheel Within A Wheel). If you drew one of these in your opening hand, you have about a 3.4% chance to get the other one each following draw. That means, if you fight for 15 turns, you have a 51% to get both of these cards together, and that's only if you get one in your opening hand. So, every other game, you MIGHT get these cards together (half of the time) if you can survive for 15 turns. In other words, that's not very good. That's why, you see most decks with 12-14 characters and 15-17 enhancements of that same color. Or if they use 2 colors, you will typically see 7-9 characters with 8-12 enhancements and 4-6 characters with 5-8 enhancements. That way the percentages are much better and you can match your characters/enhancements much easier.

3) Check out [urlhttp://www.freewebs.com/redemptionne/]Wild Card[/url] to see previous National winning Type 2 decks for some ideas.

If you have any questions, let me know or just post them here and people will respond to them.

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Re: Deck in need of help
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2010, 02:55:15 AM »
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BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVICIMO!
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Re: Deck in need of help
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2010, 01:53:45 PM »
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Thanks for your input. Two questions then. If I reduce my brigade numbers (especially for the evil characters), then what should I do with three-character-banding combos like my panic demons? For the other question, Do you think this would do better as a type one?
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Re: Deck in need of help
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2010, 09:00:30 PM »
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It's a little tough to see with your cards, but do you have the G and H decks? Do you have any other starters? Do you have multiples of any "good" cards, like Authority of Christ, Syrian Victory, or Household Idols?

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Re: Deck in need of help
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2010, 09:02:25 PM »
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do you have 3X glittlering sword? if so use it.
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Re: Deck in need of help
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2010, 10:47:13 PM »
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I have doubles of the syrian victory, I do have the G and H decks. I am starting to think this will make a much better Type one deck.
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Re: Deck in need of help
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2010, 08:18:28 PM »
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Yeah, I would just make it Purple/Silver/Black/Gray Type 1 for now.

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Re: Deck in need of help
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2010, 11:24:07 PM »
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Hey,

I've removed all Brigades except Purple, Black, Silver and Grey (with the exception of Lydia, Jacob and Zacheuss). I was also hoping that this thread could be transfered to the Type One Deck Advise Area. Any other thoughts?
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Re: Deck in need of help
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2010, 05:41:10 PM »
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Move it. Has some potential.
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