Author Topic: 50 cards gives you the best chance at winning! (Read 5149 times)

bmc25 · « **on:** January 07, 2010, 11:14:32 PM »

how many of you agree? i would like to hear from you guys. I believe this and will continue to but i am just wondering what ur thoughts are. Thankz

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #1 on:** January 07, 2010, 11:18:54 PM »

I disagree.

51 cards is much better than 50. Fifty implies that you're going speed, with very little defense, 51 says speed, with Haman's Plot. Best example is Gabe going 6-1 at Regionals at 50 then 8-0 at Natz with the same deck+Plot.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #2 on:** January 07, 2010, 11:28:11 PM »

51 is probably a bit better, but if you don't use HP, then 50 works too.

Besides speed, 56 is the best.

DaClock · « **Reply #3 on:** January 07, 2010, 11:32:49 PM »

I agree, 50 is best.

Master KChief · « **Reply #4 on:** January 07, 2010, 11:35:34 PM »

50 is best.

bmc25 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 07, 2010, 11:38:17 PM »

Correction 51 says u want to use the deck again next round

50 says ur way too kool to have 51 in ur deck so itz 50 and u just make 3 copies of it and never use the last plot. just sayin. 50 is king if u want to win

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #6 on:** January 07, 2010, 11:42:56 PM »

Until I play Taking Egypts Wealth, and then procede to rip your plot against you, making your deck illegal.

Isildur · « **Reply #7 on:** January 07, 2010, 11:46:42 PM »

63 is the best. If you can get those decks drawing right you have more then enough cards to out last a 51. Beating people with 77 card decks is one of my favorite past times

I also have a saying that if you cant make the deck any smaller make it twice as big

Master KChief · « **Reply #8 on:** January 07, 2010, 11:51:06 PM »

some 50's dont even use hamans plot.

interesting question though...what if a player entered a tournament with only one 50 card deck including hamans plot, and as RDT described, steals it from them and rips it? is that player disqualified from the tourney because they dont have a back-up deck?

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #9 on:** January 07, 2010, 11:53:43 PM »

Most judges will not allow a HP in a 50 card deck. If it is ripped, you are instantly disqualified, even if it is in the middle of a game. In order to rip HP, you MUST have 51+. So, putting HP in a 50 card deck is worthless as you will lose if you rip.

Master KChief · « **Reply #10 on:** January 07, 2010, 11:55:36 PM »

no, you will not instantly lose if you rip it in a 50 card deck. you're just not allowed to use the deck again after the game you ripped it in.

DaClock · « **Reply #11 on:** January 08, 2010, 12:01:04 AM »

MKC is right. Legality is determined before each game, it isn't an ongoing process. You can finish a game with a 49 card deck, you can't start a new one.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #12 on:** January 08, 2010, 12:05:10 AM »

Bah, I'll stick with my current 100+ deck.

I have more defensive cards than you have in your entire deck.

bmc25 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 08, 2010, 12:13:17 AM »

nice but u won't get too see too many of those

i think u night see like 20-23 of those. I love the idea of making a 100+ card deck productive. but it is just too hard with the draws killing u every turn

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #14 on:** January 08, 2010, 12:15:49 AM »

Heh, I tend to draw 2-3 EC's on the d8 with my deck... I think i'll last longer than that.

My tactic is to win by not allowing you to win.

bmc25 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 08, 2010, 12:41:41 AM »

ok 26-29 cards lol yea i've played with one of those b4 there fun too work with. I destroyed my system of organization making one hahah too many ideas lol but props too you on working with one...and keeping ur sanity "assuming u have"

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #16 on:** January 08, 2010, 12:47:32 AM »

The sanity has been replaced with madness a long time ago.

The one I'm using definately works, I just need to work on making it work within time limits.

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 08, 2010, 01:05:37 AM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on January 08, 2010, 12:15:49 AM

My tactic is to win by not allowing you to win.

That's unpossible!

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #18 on:** January 08, 2010, 01:59:00 AM »

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on January 08, 2010, 01:05:37 AM

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on January 08, 2010, 12:15:49 AM
My tactic is to win by not allowing you to win.

That's unpossible!

XD
I think it is all personal preference. I do NOT like using 50 card decks. Sorry but my 70 card deck has = your offense in defensive cards alone, let alone artifacts. Honestly, offense isn't stronger, it just has more cards

SirNobody · « **Reply #19 on:** January 08, 2010, 02:16:14 AM »

Hey,

I think 50 cards gives you the best chance of winning only if you are unable or unwilling to build a defense that can hold opponents out long enough to get you through your deck. If you use an adequate defense then I believe a 56 card deck gives you a better chance of winning.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

redemption101 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 08, 2010, 11:07:04 AM »

50 cards decks
-Draw better
-faster doms
- faster "Punch"

but
-loose hard to deck counters (heavy defense decks or specfic strats)

56 cards don't have such hard counters but at the same time loose faster decks

basicaly
50 cards = paper
56 cards = rock
defense deck = scisors

southpawami · « **Reply #21 on:** January 11, 2010, 04:04:28 PM »

Quote from: Cameron the Conqueror on January 07, 2010, 11:53:43 PM

Most judges will not allow a HP in a 50 card deck. If it is ripped, you are instantly disqualified, even if it is in the middle of a game. In order to rip HP, you MUST have 51+. So, putting HP in a 50 card deck is worthless as you will lose if you rip.

Really? Is it possible to make a deck illegal by taking someone's enhancement or character from them? For example, the enhancement Praising Him Moon takes a character away from a person's hand. Does this make a deck immediately illegal?

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #22 on:** January 11, 2010, 04:06:14 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on January 07, 2010, 11:55:36 PM

no, you will not instantly lose if you rip it in a 50 card deck. you're just not allowed to use the deck again after the game you ripped it in.

Quote from: DaClock on January 08, 2010, 12:01:04 AM

MKC is right. Legality is determined before each game, it isn't an ongoing process. You can finish a game with a 49 card deck, you can't start a new one.

I was incorrect, these are the correct posts. So, no, that wouldn't work.

southpawami · « **Reply #23 on:** January 11, 2010, 04:17:35 PM »

Quote from: Cameron the Conqueror on January 11, 2010, 04:06:14 PM

Quote from: Master KChief on January 07, 2010, 11:55:36 PM
no, you will not instantly lose if you rip it in a 50 card deck. you're just not allowed to use the deck again after the game you ripped it in.
Quote from: DaClock on January 08, 2010, 12:01:04 AM
MKC is right. Legality is determined before each game, it isn't an ongoing process. You can finish a game with a 49 card deck, you can't start a new one.
I was incorrect, these are the correct posts. So, no, that wouldn't work.

That's probably good. It still would have been interesting to learn of another way to win games.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #24 on:** January 11, 2010, 04:27:07 PM »

Quote

Really? Is it possible to make a deck illegal by taking someone's enhancement or character from them? For example, the enhancement Praising Him Moon takes a character away from a person's hand. Does this make a deck immediately illegal?

Only if you steal Haman's Plot and then use it against a 50-card deck. Everything else that is "stolen" over the course of the game goes back into its owner's deck afterward.

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