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Quote from: stefferweffer on June 09, 2010, 09:37:21 AMQuote from: Ring Wraith on June 09, 2010, 09:23:30 AMQuote from: stefferweffer on June 09, 2010, 09:13:01 AMAgain with the 12 FG! Do all redemption players really create team decks to deal with this one card? So if FBTN no longer a strategy because of ONE CARD that just MIGHT be in someone's deck? I already mentioned Holy Grail, + Grapes, + AOL. We only need to rescue 3 lost souls before we can SOG and NJ the other two.12FG should be in everybody's deck, considering it completely shuts down these FBTNB decks. my FBTN has some back up that'd deal with it, but it still gives me problems. of course, I also think that Possessing Demon should be in everybody's deck... But according to what was said above, you're really talking about at least THREE cards that should be in everybody's deck, right? 12FG, Armorbearer and Outpost (if you want to keep recurring him)?nope. just two. 12FG and Possessing Demon. Armorbearer is green... but if you can get them to waste their AotL, 12FG is a game winner. oh, and btw, I don't use it in any of my decks right now.Quote from: stefferweffer on June 09, 2010, 10:24:31 AMGood question. In ALMOST every tournament deck I make now, I have the following (in addition to the dominants): Holy Grail, Captured Ark, Hopper LS, The Amalekite Slave, Confusion of Mind, Unholy Writ, Unknown Nation, Uzzah, Torment, Brass Serpent Promo, Wall of Protection and sometimes Holy of Holies and Women as Snares (if Shuffler LS is in play). There may be others also that I'm not thinking of. These assume I am using a deck that has any defense to speak of at all.that's interesting. you must like speed. Unholy Writ I can see in any deck, the rest is extremely dependent on the deck.
Quote from: Ring Wraith on June 09, 2010, 09:23:30 AMQuote from: stefferweffer on June 09, 2010, 09:13:01 AMAgain with the 12 FG! Do all redemption players really create team decks to deal with this one card? So if FBTN no longer a strategy because of ONE CARD that just MIGHT be in someone's deck? I already mentioned Holy Grail, + Grapes, + AOL. We only need to rescue 3 lost souls before we can SOG and NJ the other two.12FG should be in everybody's deck, considering it completely shuts down these FBTNB decks. my FBTN has some back up that'd deal with it, but it still gives me problems. of course, I also think that Possessing Demon should be in everybody's deck... But according to what was said above, you're really talking about at least THREE cards that should be in everybody's deck, right? 12FG, Armorbearer and Outpost (if you want to keep recurring him)?
Quote from: stefferweffer on June 09, 2010, 09:13:01 AMAgain with the 12 FG! Do all redemption players really create team decks to deal with this one card? So if FBTN no longer a strategy because of ONE CARD that just MIGHT be in someone's deck? I already mentioned Holy Grail, + Grapes, + AOL. We only need to rescue 3 lost souls before we can SOG and NJ the other two.12FG should be in everybody's deck, considering it completely shuts down these FBTNB decks. my FBTN has some back up that'd deal with it, but it still gives me problems. of course, I also think that Possessing Demon should be in everybody's deck...
Again with the 12 FG! Do all redemption players really create team decks to deal with this one card? So if FBTN no longer a strategy because of ONE CARD that just MIGHT be in someone's deck? I already mentioned Holy Grail, + Grapes, + AOL. We only need to rescue 3 lost souls before we can SOG and NJ the other two.
Good question. In ALMOST every tournament deck I make now, I have the following (in addition to the dominants): Holy Grail, Captured Ark, Hopper LS, The Amalekite Slave, Confusion of Mind, Unholy Writ, Unknown Nation, Uzzah, Torment, Brass Serpent Promo, Wall of Protection and sometimes Holy of Holies and Women as Snares (if Shuffler LS is in play). There may be others also that I'm not thinking of. These assume I am using a deck that has any defense to speak of at all.
the list of cards that "should be in everybody's deck" is growing, which is not a good thing.
Special Ability - "If holder has not played any dominants this game, discard this artifact to remove all dominants from all players hands, draw piles, and discard piles from the game."
Quote from: stefferweffer on June 09, 2010, 09:37:21 AMthe list of cards that "should be in everybody's deck" is growing, which is not a good thing.This idea has come up before, and will probably continue to come up. It is one reason why I think it would be great to have an artifact like below. That would at least mean that only half of decks would have the 10 dominants, and the other half would have that artifact, probably 1 or 2 ways to search for it, and 7 other cards that would be different.Special Ability - "If holder has not played any dominants this game, discard this artifact to remove all dominants from all players hands, draw piles, and discard piles from the game."
Quote from: Prof Underwood on June 09, 2010, 03:23:28 PMSpecial Ability - "If holder has not played any dominants this game, discard this artifact to remove all dominants from all players hands, draw piles, and discard piles from the game."Crazy awesome in teams .
Quote from: stefferweffer on June 09, 2010, 10:24:31 AMGood question. In ALMOST every tournament deck I make now, I have the following (in addition to the dominants): Holy Grail, Captured Ark, Hopper LS, The Amalekite Slave, Confusion of Mind, Unholy Writ, Unknown Nation, Uzzah, Torment, Brass Serpent Promo, Wall of Protection and sometimes Holy of Holies and Women as Snares (if Shuffler LS is in play). There may be others also that I'm not thinking of. These assume I am using a deck that has any defense to speak of at all.that's interesting. you must like speed. Unholy Writ I can see in any deck, the rest is extremely dependent on the deck.
Again with the 12 FG! Do all redemption players really create team decks to deal with this one card? So if FBTN no longer a strategy because of ONE CARD that just MIGHT be in someone's deck? I already mentioned Holy Grail, + Grapes, + AOL. We only need to rescue 3 lost souls before we can SOG and NJ the other two.Furthermore, are we sure that you can Outpost "THE TWELVE FINGERED GIANT". I thought that if a character began with "THE" and was singular, that he is deemed non-generic?
Quote from: stefferweffer on June 09, 2010, 02:27:02 PMQuote from: stefferweffer on June 09, 2010, 10:24:31 AMGood question. In ALMOST every tournament deck I make now, I have the following (in addition to the dominants): Holy Grail, Captured Ark, Hopper LS, The Amalekite Slave, Confusion of Mind, Unholy Writ, Unknown Nation, Uzzah, Torment, Brass Serpent Promo, Wall of Protection and sometimes Holy of Holies and Women as Snares (if Shuffler LS is in play). There may be others also that I'm not thinking of. These assume I am using a deck that has any defense to speak of at all.that's interesting. you must like speed. Unholy Writ I can see in any deck, the rest is extremely dependent on the deck.That's hysterical that you assume I like speed from that list. I don't mean you said anything wrong, it's just funny because I rant about speed decks all the time. I can see how a couple fit a "spped" theme, but on others I never thought of them as "speed deck" cards. Thanks again.
Unfortunately I have yet to ever see see a defense heavy deck win in a Type 1 tournament.
Quote from: stefferweffer on June 09, 2010, 05:18:33 PMUnfortunately I have yet to ever see see a defense heavy deck win in a Type 1 tournament.you poor, deprived, soul. defense is the thing that brings fun to this game!
Furthermore, are we sure that you can Outpost "THE TWELVE FINGERED GIANT". I thought that if a character began with "THE" and was singular, that he is deemed non-generic?
Quote from: stefferweffer on June 09, 2010, 09:13:01 AMAgain with the 12 FG! Do all redemption players really create team decks to deal with this one card? So if FBTN no longer a strategy because of ONE CARD that just MIGHT be in someone's deck? I already mentioned Holy Grail, + Grapes, + AOL. We only need to rescue 3 lost souls before we can SOG and NJ the other two.12 FG is a legitimate concern for any banding offense. Throwing in a FooF Caleb in each deck may be a good idea.
Lies. Characterless brings fun to the game, and my newest revision doesn't need defense to work
Just want to be different. This is the "Super-Banding" concept. Partner's deck would be identical. Please give input. Thanks.56 cards11 heroes - helez (WC)maharai (WC)asahel TxP (WC)strong angel (WC)ira (WC)benaiah (WC)shamhuth (WC)israelite archer (WC)coth (WC)heldai (WC)abishai (WC)1 hero enhancement -brass serpent promo1 site -dragon raid2 fortresses -wall of protectiontrap of the devil2 artifacts -holy grailunholy writ1 covenant - I am Salvation3 curses -captured arkunknown nationconfusion of mind6 good dominants -harvest timeguardian of your soulsson of godnew jerusalemgrapes of wrathangel of the lord4 evil dominants -falling awayburialchristian martyrdestruction of nehushtan14 evil characters -the amalekite slavemessenger of satanlying spiritunclean spirituzzahseizing spiritgomer (TxP)sevens sons of scevaking of tyrus (Priests)beast from the sea (Warriors)ananiassapphirafallen angel (Priests)lot's wife4 evil enhancements -image of jealousydestructive sintormentlying unto God7 lost souls -lost souls 3 liner shufflerrevealeranti-burialfemale onlynt onlyexchanger
I don't think this would work. CoM would negate, 12FG would negate, and you have no ehancements to back them up even if they did outdo you...
Quote from: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on June 08, 2010, 12:07:02 PMI don't think this would work. CoM would negate, 12FG would negate, and you have no ehancements to back them up even if they did outdo you...Well, we played two games....and the total LS differencial was 10-0!! This deck Rock's!
Quote from: hi123 on June 17, 2010, 09:34:13 PMQuote from: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on June 08, 2010, 12:07:02 PMI don't think this would work. CoM would negate, 12FG would negate, and you have no ehancements to back them up even if they did outdo you...Well, we played two games....and the total LS differencial was 10-0!! This deck Rock's! it's all about the competition. not trying to put you down, but trying to keep it real. you could have had intense competition...idk
Sorry to resurrect this, but we have a tournament coming up and I had a neat idea. Since these decks have so few cards required "in hand", would adding a Zebulun to each deck be a neat surprise attack?Thanks!