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Title: You mad?
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 15, 2010, 02:54:18 PM
Step one: Use SWS to exchange into your opponent's territory.
Step two: Play Self
Step three: Band SWS back in and Exchange it with Self
Step four: Job Overcomes.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Smokey on October 15, 2010, 02:55:54 PM
Overcomplication is overly complicated.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on October 15, 2010, 03:01:34 PM
Why didn't I think of something like this for Lambo's combo....  I was resorting to converts/Stalks of Flax.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Korunks on October 15, 2010, 03:04:30 PM
Quote
Step one: Use SWS to exchange into your opponent's territory.
Step two: Play Self
Step three: Band SWS back in and Exchange it with Self
Step four: Job Overcomes.

SWS can't enter the same battle twice right?
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Warrior_Monk on October 15, 2010, 03:06:00 PM
Quote
Step one: Use SWS to exchange into your opponent's territory.
Step two: Play Self
Step three: Band SWS back in and Exchange it with Self
Step four: Job Overcomes.

SWS can't enter the same battle twice right?
I'm guessing he means two different turns.

Epic.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Professoralstad on October 15, 2010, 03:18:08 PM
I'm not completely sure if this works, as if I recall correctly, in order to count for Job Overcomes, the opponent has to own and control the brigades. Even though SWS exchanges permanent control, it never exchanges ownership.

Regardless, Job Overcomes is probably not a bad idea in a lot of offenses, due to the likelihood of increased Herod's Treachery usage, as well as Hating the Light.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 15, 2010, 03:33:16 PM
"For each Evil Brigade your opponent has in play..." there's no indication of ownership there, just control. It's the same kind of verbiage cards like The Lord Fights for You uses.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Captain Kirk on October 23, 2010, 02:15:43 PM
I made an entire deck based around this in the fall of 08 after FoOF was released.  So win.

I found it easier to force a side battle and choose to control 7WS (whom I had previously given to my opponent) and switch for my Self.  Otherwise, you are resorting to them attacking you twice (once so you can initially give them 7WS and one to make the switch).

Kirk
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: hi123 on October 23, 2010, 07:04:02 PM
Step one: Use SWS to exchange into your opponent's territory.
Step two: Play Self
Step three: Band SWS back in and Exchange it with Self
Step four: Job Overcomes.
What is SWS?
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: lightningninja on October 23, 2010, 07:08:52 PM
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Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: TheJaylor on October 23, 2010, 07:22:26 PM
you made me look through my collection to remind myself of what job overcomes does just for that! juh!
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: The M on October 23, 2010, 09:03:25 PM
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why is the verse in KING JAMES?!?
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Warrior_Monk on October 23, 2010, 09:29:39 PM
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why is the verse in KING JAMES?!?
Aren't most Redemption cards, if not all?
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 23, 2010, 11:04:11 PM
King James is public domain, so Cactus doesn't have to pay any licensing to use it.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Master KChief on October 23, 2010, 11:15:49 PM
who is king james anyways.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: sk on October 23, 2010, 11:19:41 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_I_of_England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_I_of_England)
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 24, 2010, 12:25:43 PM
NIV belongs to Zondervan.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Red on November 14, 2010, 06:07:56 PM
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why is the verse in KING JAMES?!?
It's the best anyway.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Alex_Olijar on November 14, 2010, 06:28:36 PM
Yeah, you are a baptist. :D
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Red on November 14, 2010, 06:42:43 PM
Yeah, you are a baptist. :D
So? you gotta problem with that?
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: The Warrior on November 14, 2010, 07:36:49 PM
"Judge Not Lest Thou Feelith thy pain from the 4/10ith to the face.....ith"
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Daniel TS RED on November 15, 2010, 10:46:10 AM
John was a baptist.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Master KChief on November 15, 2010, 11:08:01 AM
4/10. TO THE FACE.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: SomeKittens on November 15, 2010, 02:22:31 PM
John was a baptist.
And then Jesus came along, and showed him the way.  (kidding!)
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Alex_Olijar on November 15, 2010, 03:05:27 PM
John was a baptist.

Baptizer. The name baptist is incredibly misleading and I wish Christians would start saying Baptizer, as it is more accurate.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Red on November 15, 2010, 03:14:23 PM
John was a baptist.

Baptizer. The name baptist is incredibly misleading and I wish Christians would start saying Baptizer, as it is more accurate.
They mean the same thing.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: The M on November 15, 2010, 05:06:00 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptists)
Baptists according to Wiki.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBaptism&ei=oa7hTIfqGs3GnAfEveXkDw&usg=AFQjCNFrTzeY-8naXFOwNut-gArqk23gUw (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBaptism&ei=oa7hTIfqGs3GnAfEveXkDw&usg=AFQjCNFrTzeY-8naXFOwNut-gArqk23gUw)
Baptism according to Wiki.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Korunks on November 15, 2010, 05:27:59 PM
Why are people saying baptist like its a bad thing?  Whats wrong with Baptists?
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: The M on November 15, 2010, 05:31:25 PM
I'm not saying it like a bad thing.
Baptists are Christian and that is all I care about.
We are all brothers and sisters in Christ. :)
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Korunks on November 15, 2010, 05:34:51 PM
I'm not saying it like a bad thing.
Baptists are Christian and that is all I care about.
We are all brothers and sisters in Christ. :)

I can respect that answer. I am not a baptist, but I go to a baptist church.  The church I attend holds closest to the Christian Ideals I believe in.  It also helps that they embraced Redemption whole heartedly and are the main reason there is even Redemption happening in MD. :)
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: The Warrior on November 15, 2010, 05:35:31 PM
I'm not saying it like a bad thing.
Baptists are Christian and that is all I care about.
We are all brothers and sisters in Christ. :)
its annoying to see people going "OMGZ THAY ARENT UZING THE CORRECT COLOR, LETZ MAKE A NEW DOMOMINATION"
so petty
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: The M on November 15, 2010, 07:44:12 PM
Denomination?
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: SomeKittens on November 15, 2010, 07:53:03 PM
Omnom-ination?
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: The Warrior on November 16, 2010, 10:08:33 PM
Omnom-ination?
nomnomnom
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: fyero on November 16, 2010, 11:22:24 PM
cookie monster. baptists rock, woohoo...
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Alex_Olijar on November 17, 2010, 01:23:42 AM
John was a baptist.

Baptizer. The name baptist is incredibly misleading and I wish Christians would start saying Baptizer, as it is more accurate.
They mean the same thing.

No, they mean the same thing to you. I can't number the times someone has asked me if the Baptist was added because he was patron of the Baptist church, was a Baptist, etc by both Christians and non. Baptizer is the more accurate way to describe what we mean, so we should use it.

I'm not saying it like a bad thing.
Baptists are Christian and that is all I care about.
We are all brothers and sisters in Christ. :)

I can respect that answer. I am not a baptist, but I go to a baptist church.  The church I attend holds closest to the Christian Ideals I believe in.  It also helps that they embraced Redemption whole heartedly and are the main reason there is even Redemption happening in MD. :)

Don't take this the wrong way or as negative towards baptists, but how can you say you go to a baptist church without being baptist? By attending the church, you are passively upholding and agreeing with the ideas espoused by the church. I do not understand how you can find such a dichotomy about it.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: SomeKittens on November 17, 2010, 11:52:16 AM
Possibly he could be attending the church because he's in a transitional period, his parents want him to, there's a really good looking female in the youth group...
Or he's just not a member, and sees that as the test of Baptistism.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Korunks on November 17, 2010, 12:06:28 PM
I'm not saying it like a bad thing.
Baptists are Christian and that is all I care about.
We are all brothers and sisters in Christ. :)

I can respect that answer. I am not a baptist, but I go to a baptist church.  The church I attend holds closest to the Christian Ideals I believe in.  It also helps that they embraced Redemption whole heartedly and are the main reason there is even Redemption happening in MD. :)

Don't take this the wrong way or as negative towards baptists, but how can you say you go to a baptist church without being baptist? By attending the church, you are passively upholding and agreeing with the ideas espoused by the church. I do not understand how you can find such a dichotomy about it.

There does not exist one single church or denomination that espouses all the ideas that I believe to be true.  So I attend the closest thing, I follow where God leads me.  So far it has been to several differant towns, and now even states.

Possibly he could be attending the church because he's in a transitional period, his parents want him to, there's a really good looking female in the youth group...
Or he's just not a member, and sees that as the test of Baptistism.

I am here because the Lord led me to be here.  My parents are not saved, so they have no bearing on where I church.  I only give that kind of attention to my wife ;).  I actually am member of the church.  Solely because the requirements for being a member do not contradict my beliefs.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: marc on March 05, 2011, 01:54:30 AM
   In response to the original post...am I missing something? If someone came against me and played Job Overcomes (if they forced me to use Self) couldn't I simply choose to discard from the evil cards from the battle. All that would be is Self (which isn't even my character). Then I would block using any of a variety of cards used to block after an EC's defeat. (Sog - NJ, Martyr, Burial, Falling Away, Unholy Writ, etc...)
   Unless that "OR" means "AND"...??? I thought of this stratagy (using different cards), but never took it seriously because of that reason...

Job Overcomes (Pi)
Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Blue • Ability: 2 / 3 • Class: None • Special Ability: For each evil brigade your opponent has in play, that opponent must discard an evil card from hand OR battle. You may draw a card. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Job 42:10 • Availability: Priests booster packs (Common) *emphasis added*

Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: Minister Polarius on March 05, 2011, 02:24:19 AM
You have to Discard X. X can come from hand or battle.
Title: Re: You mad?
Post by: marc on March 05, 2011, 11:53:23 AM
Ah, I see. Thanks!
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