Author Topic: What do you consider staple cards now? (Read 12737 times)

adotson85 · « **on:** October 04, 2010, 01:21:15 AM »

Besides the obvious dominants, what cards do you consider staples now? I know that I don't use Harvest Time or Mayhem as much as I used to thanks to a certain site. I also expect some of the new lost souls will become staples as well as counters to Thad.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #1 on:** October 04, 2010, 01:23:42 AM »

either cards that have been stapled or sold in staples in the staples brand

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #2 on:** October 04, 2010, 01:25:00 AM »

Right.

Anyway, Herod's Temple is the only non-dom staple in my book.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #3 on:** October 04, 2010, 01:26:34 AM »

but honestly
chariot of fire is THE staple card that will never be replaced unless your dumb enough to not make it your staple card

adotson85 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 04, 2010, 01:27:51 AM »

I see a couple people above that I would like to see as staple players at our Knoxville tournaments

hi123 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 04, 2010, 06:00:54 AM »

Quote from: adotson85 on October 04, 2010, 01:21:15 AM

Besides the obvious dominants, what cards do you consider staples now? I know that I don't use Harvest Time or Mayhem as much as I used to thanks to a certain site. I also expect some of the new lost souls will become staples as well as counters to Thad.

Theese cards should be in tournamnet decks-

Reveal LS
Woman at the Well( well, depending on what you are using!)
Dragon Raid, Promised Land, Priestly Crown Etc. ( not all of those!!!, At least two. )
Golgotha( if not using TGT.)

And then, as you said, all of the DOMS !

New Raven BR · « **Reply #6 on:** October 04, 2010, 11:21:39 AM »

Quote from: adotson85 on October 04, 2010, 01:27:51 AM

I see a couple people above that I would like to see as staple players at our Knoxville tournaments

why, ado, i didn't know you cared!

Josh · « **Reply #7 on:** October 04, 2010, 12:08:41 PM »

Quote from: hi123 on October 04, 2010, 06:00:54 AM

Theese cards should be in tournamnet decks-

Reveal LS
Woman at the Well( well, depending on what you are using!)
Dragon Raid, Promised Land, Priestly Crown Etc. ( not all of those!!!, At least two. )
Golgotha( if not using TGT.)

And then, as you said, all of the DOMS !

The Reveal LS would be pretty pointless in a D heavy deck.

So you put the Woman at the Well in every deck you make? Even with all the Nazareths running around?

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #8 on:** October 04, 2010, 05:45:13 PM »

Eleazar's Sword.

ChristianSoldier · « **Reply #9 on:** October 04, 2010, 06:18:47 PM »

I think Captured Ark could still make it as a staple. Herod's Temple could almost a staple I think (but in a deck with something like 3 NT humans its fairly useless)

I am really bad at the staple game, my understanding of the definition of a "Staple Card" is one that adding it to ANY deck will make the deck better, such as Son of God, even with several cards that counter it, putting it in your deck has little to no downside for the incredible gain (a 2 point shift if played at the ideal time)

Herod's Temple is useless in any deck that doesn't use NT humans, now, if all decks were NT humans it could be a staple, but I don't think that is the case.

The Revealer LS is good, but in a slow deck there may be a better choice depending on how the deck works.

Maybe my definition is wrong, in which case I could see a lot more card being staples. Plus I don't know how all the Disciples play yet so maybe there will be a staple card in there that I have not considered yet.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #10 on:** October 04, 2010, 06:23:45 PM »

ANB
Eleazar's Sword
ET
Unified Kingdom
Eliashama the Priest
Tribal Elder

these are the ones in all the recent decks I've built.

Golgotha
Son of God
New Jerusalem
Angel of the Lord (pretty much always)
Christian Martyr
Grapes (okay, maybe not a staple, but I pretty much always use it)
Unholy Writ
Lampstand
DoN
D-Raid/Ends of the Earth
Promised Land (pretty much always)
2 Liner (pretty much always)
Female (usually...)

SomeKittens · « **Reply #11 on:** October 04, 2010, 10:45:26 PM »

Writ, 30 Pieces, Burial Shroud, two liner, female only

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #12 on:** October 04, 2010, 11:03:43 PM »

My newest staples are Golgotha and Lurking.

Lurking is already an underused card, but it doubles in usefulness with Golgotha.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #13 on:** October 05, 2010, 01:30:55 AM »

Barring DOMS:
DR/Multi site
Site guard
Deck d/c ls
UN

Those are in 100% of all my decks I've made.

I vary decks A LOT.

Master_Chi · « **Reply #14 on:** October 05, 2010, 07:22:11 PM »

Buckler is a must-have, no matter what offense you are running.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #15 on:** October 06, 2010, 03:42:42 PM »

!TGT!

Gomer usually makes quite a few appearences as well as her good friends KoT and plot

New Raven BR · « **Reply #16 on:** October 06, 2010, 03:44:41 PM »

Quote from: Master_Chi on October 05, 2010, 07:22:11 PM

Buckler is a must-have, no matter what offense you are running.

your giving that stinking card too much credit

browarod · « **Reply #17 on:** October 06, 2010, 03:47:00 PM »

I'd say Golg and CP are probably staples now.

stefferweffer · « **Reply #18 on:** October 06, 2010, 04:13:40 PM »

Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on October 05, 2010, 01:30:55 AM

Barring DOMS:
DR/Multi site
Site guard
Deck d/c ls
UN

Those are in 100% of all my decks I've made.

I vary decks A LOT.

But aren't cards like Site Guard and Deck Discard lost souls only "staples" in decks with sites? You say you vary decks a lot, but do all of them use sites? If so, then sites would be staples too, right? I'm not singling you out, but just using this as one example.
I agree with what someone earlier said, in that we need to define the term "staple". I agree with the previous poster who personally hears the word "staple" as "something I am likely to put in every deck I make." Saying something like "Assyria's Tribute" is a staple card seems silly to me, unless that person is saying that every deck they ever make is Assyrians. Am I making sense? For example I put Golden Calf in every NT hero deck I make, but its never going in my banding red warriors deck, for obvious reasons. Shouldn't the term "staple" mean a card that benefits EVERY deck it is in, regardless of theme? This will usually mean the few cards that can actually find a place in every deck without brigade being an issue - Artifacts (including covenants and curses), Fortresses, Dominants, and Lost Souls. There may be a couple standalone characters that fit this bill too - Gomer, Uzzah, 12FG, KOT, Strong Angel, Woman at the Well, but as great as these cards are they are not in EVERY deck I make. Staple enhancements would have to be multi-color (I'm guessing), and I'm thinking very few of those apply (Torment and Brass Serpent promo maybe?). Sorry to ramble, but are we even in agreement on what "staple" means?

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #19 on:** October 06, 2010, 04:37:00 PM »

Considering he listed a site as a staple.....

If we define staples as cards that will make any deck better, there will not be ANY. (Not even SOG. See Gabe's 2009 Nats winning t2-2p).

SomeKittens · « **Reply #20 on:** October 06, 2010, 04:46:36 PM »

Not only a site, but a Multi site, which makes Site guard that much better.

stefferweffer · « **Reply #21 on:** October 06, 2010, 04:52:37 PM »

Doesn't "Site Guard LS" say "single color site"?

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #22 on:** October 06, 2010, 05:06:56 PM »

Quote from: stefferweffer on October 06, 2010, 04:52:37 PM

Doesn't "Site Guard LS" say "single color site"?

Nope

As for staple cards. I would say that they are a card that could go in 90% of decks. Sure you may not put it in Heroless or defenseless deck, but it would go in any normal deck.

SoG
NJ
AotL
GoW
CM
DoN
GoYS (I don't, but 90% of others do)
FA (I don't, but 90% of others do)
Mayhem (I don't, but 90% of others do)

Captured Ark
Confusion of Mind
Unknown Nation (except demon decks)
Chariot of Fire
Covenant of Noah
Unholy Writ

Hopper (except in big defense decks)
Revealer
Wanderer/Exchanger

The Amalekite's Slave (except demon decks)

Not sure on sites yet this year, but I suspect that several of the new ones will be in 90% of decks.

stefferweffer · « **Reply #23 on:** October 06, 2010, 05:30:25 PM »

Sorry for my earlier confusion about the "Site Guard" lost soul. I was confusing it with "Color Guard". In this regard I agree that using "Site Guard" with a multi-color site could be fun. Thanks.

Red · « **Reply #24 on:** October 06, 2010, 10:08:06 PM »

Prof you don't use Mayhem? And steff a staple is card that YOU always play in MOST decks. For me that's Miram. P.S Sorry for the caps.

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