Cactus Game Design Message Boards

There is. The same character cannot enter battle twice in the same turn.

Oh, how about this: Set Asahel aside with Training in Righteousness to give him gold and blue brigade, go out and choose the blocker, play Warrior's Spear, play Stillness to take it back, play it again, play Highway to take both enhancements back, play WS again, etc., and keep a Book of Gad the Seer in case you get a LS with WSpear.

I actually think this combo works...

Wouldn't need the Book of Gad, Warrior's spear doesn't discard until after battle.  I like it, but I would choose a different hero + Provisions so I could choose my Red Dragon.

But don't you need to use Asahel?  Because he is protected from withdraw abilities?

Quote from: Cameron the Conqueror on January 23, 2010, 01:08:10 PM

Wouldn't need the Book of Gad, Warrior's spear doesn't discard until after battle.  I like it, but I would choose a different hero + Provisions so I could choose my Red Dragon.

But don't you need to use Asahel?  Because he is protected from withdraw abilities?

Actually, the withdraw the hero ability is a "may" ability, so no, you don't have to use Asahel.

Cam's right...we could even cut out TiR if we use Seeker of the Lost or Soldier of God.

There are so going to be some erratas soon.

So what is the final combo then?  Attack with a Provisioned Soldier of God/Seeker, choose your own immune EC, play Warrior's Spear, play Highway/Stillness, get back Warrior's Spear, discard Highway/Stillness, choose not to withdraw, play Warrior's Spear again, play a card to get back Highway/Stillness?

Not quite.

1. Attack with a Provisioned Soldier of God/Seeker,
2. choose your own immune EC,
3. play Warrior's Spear,
4. play a withdraw card (Highway or Stillness),
5. get back Warrior's Spear,
6. choose not to withdraw,
7. play Warrior's Spear again,
8. Repeat from step 4, this time retrieving the other withdraw card.

Here's how this will be solved:

A. New rule making withdraw enhancements be unable to return other withdraw enhancements.
B. Errata on all withdraw cards to say: "May withdraw hero to return enhancments played to hand."

Either way, this combo will meet a swift and unfortunate demise.

Me and Ben Shadrick made this deck for last year's SE regionals. We did a speed offense though to get it all out and used Coat of Many COlors. But I see this offense working well in type 2 and you would have to center the offense around it though and only have those cards. I would pair it with an evil gold defense or Romans with Heavy Taxes and hurt their hand with gray, or deck with gold, but not go too heavy into it. Mainly I would want the defense to be strong and not focus on discard so much so I can block while my offense sets up.

SQUEEEEE more deck d/c ^_^

There are so going to be some new erratas soon.

I saw it coming.

Highway
Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Yellow • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Hero may withdraw from battle unharmed. All enhancement cards played may be returned to the player's hand except this one. • Identifiers: OT, Based on Prophecy • Verse: Isaiah 35:8 • Availability: Prophets booster packs (Uncommon)

Stillness
Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Blue • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Hero may withdraw from battle unharmed. All enhancement cards played may be returned to the player's hand except this one. • Identifiers: OT, Involves Music • Verse: Psalms 46:10 • Availability: B Deck (UL) and Availability: Promotional cards (1995)


Each one says may, you don't have to withdraw. (previous post...idk how to do that cool quote thing)

Actually, this can't work. check out this part of the ever-friendly REG:

• Many withdraw cards state: “… may withdraw from battle. All enhancements used may be returned to owner’s
hand, except this one.”, e.g., Stillness These two sentences are contingent. You may only keep the enhancements
if you withdraw from battle. (pg. 14)

so  u would have to use the Asahel combo because he's protected from the withdraw part of Stillness. if Seeker tried this he would have to withdraw from battle to get the enhancements back ,but then he couldn't re-enter battle unfortunately unless The Long Day was worked in there as this excerpt of the REG shows;

• If a character is forced to withdraw (e.g., Darkness (Warriors)) or withdraws from a battle voluntarily (e.g.,
Highway), it may not re-enter the current battle [p. 54]. Moreover, the character may enter on a new battle on the
same turn (e.g., The Long Day).