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Golgotha, get attacked, place EE of your choice, block with Outsiders, activate Shrine to Artemis, shuffle erstwhile discarded EE, search for a Greek.

Unfortunately, Outsiders can't activate an idol from the artifact pile.

Noah and Nathan can pull this off if banded in during battle, but you can't place an EE prior to attacking with one of those Heroes.

Hey, I'm just trying to figure out how to make the other two Outsiders not garbage!

i really liked the black/gold one...

Hey, I'm just trying to figure out how to make the other two Outsiders not garbage! You can do this with The First Bowl as well.

I found the Brown/Crimson Outsiders extremely useful in playtesting. HHI, Shrine and Image of the Beast are all great artifacts to put in the Reserve for situational usage. Outsiders/Image was a nice way to undo a strong Hero ability (such as Jephthah) without blocking FBTN. Asherah Pole is another great idol but since it's only effective against O.T. offenses, it is absolutely an ideal candidate for the Reserve.

I did not test the Gray/Pale Outsiders as much as they feel much more like a character that goes into a combo deck. Might be interesting trying them in an Egyptian-based defense with Given Over to Egypt.

 I don't understand why the original scenario doesn't work, as long as you have shrine in any of the targetable locations by that outsiders…

Correct 

You can just activate Shrine during your prep phase and shuffle it back into our deck, then search it out with Outsiders next time you block (assuming searching your deck is a viable option).

You can just activate Shrine during your prep phase and shuffle it back into our deck, then search it out with Outsiders next time you block (assuming searching your deck is a viable option).

True enough, but that does mean you're sacrificing your artifact slot and that you need Outsiders to survive each battle. 

I mean if it gets out of control I'm not even going to attack with Joshua i'll be like "nope we're done here, you've lost your golgotha privileges sir". I've done this with Jordan's creeping deceiver before but he took my Thaddeus so we traded back...