Author Topic: The best way to beat Thad is.... (Read 18097 times)

Gabe · « **Reply #25 on:** March 09, 2011, 11:16:14 AM »

My third round opponent at the MN T2 placed two Destructive Sin on my Disciples, one of them being Thad. Unfortunately Disciples just have any way to deal with that...

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #26 on:** March 09, 2011, 11:32:37 AM »

put it in the boat and shuffle it away or play passover hymn

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 09, 2011, 11:40:06 AM »

or borrow an idea from this thread.

works especially well if you have a tinge of orange in your defense. 8^{(> <== me, looking sad-faced at MN T2 Blowout

Professoralstad · « **Reply #28 on:** March 09, 2011, 05:13:43 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on March 09, 2011, 12:38:29 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueaHLHgskkw

My brother-in-law-in-law has Danger as his middle name on Facebook. My wife's older sister (not the one he is married too) first thought his middle name actually was Danger (pronounced dang-er instead of dane-jur). So now that's what she calls him.

everytribe · « **Reply #29 on:** March 09, 2011, 08:28:42 PM »

Quote from: Bryon on March 09, 2011, 12:41:50 AM

Quote from: TheHobbit13 on March 08, 2011, 08:35:00 PM
Stalks of Flax, Samaritan water jar, Destructive sin (almost impossible to get rid of ).
*falls out of chair*
Did a Minnesota player just suggest an ORANGE card?

At our Minnesota Boot Camp we teach all the RLK that their is no Orange in redemption. At our Advanced Boot Camp after hours we teach that it is ok to place an orange card on another players cards because your not really using it yourself.

Red · « **Reply #30 on:** March 10, 2011, 07:47:51 AM »

Quote from: The Music Maker on March 10, 2011, 12:20:43 AM

Just use confusion of mind to negate him. And if you're that scared of him, Christian Martyr him. Guys, seriously, he's not that scary, he says "Interupt" not negate. If you ask me TGT is still scarier than all diciples put together. I also use emperors which has Romans destroy jerusalem

You have never played vs disciples have you?

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #31 on:** March 10, 2011, 10:59:44 AM »

Quote from: The Music Maker on March 10, 2011, 12:20:43 AM

Just use confusion of mind to negate him. And if you're that scared of him, Christian Martyr him. Guys, seriously, he's not that scary, he says "Interupt" not negate. If you ask me TGT is still scarier than all diciples put together. I also use emperors which has Romans destroy jerusalem

Confusion of Mind is easy to get rid of. In t2 you'll have multiple Thads and one Christian Martyr. Not to mention Herod's Temple.
Capturing via Writ/Charms? Too bad everyone uses multiple Blue Tassels.

I really like Justin's idea of end the battle, but weapons are so easy to get rid of. That being said I'm going to try that out.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #32 on:** March 10, 2011, 11:06:14 AM »

And even if you do manage to capture Thad, A New Covenant laughs at your feeble stalling attempts.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #33 on:** March 10, 2011, 11:27:42 AM »

My favorite way to beat Thadd is a baseball bat.

Josh · « **Reply #34 on:** March 10, 2011, 11:36:04 AM »

King Amon (K) x3 or x4
Goliath's Armor x2
Gates of Jerusalem
Manasseh (Prophets) x2

Once AotL and Grapes are gone and Manasseh is in discard pile, Amon can block Thad all day CBN style. You might need 2 or 3 GoJ, since Disciples in T2 would have a lot of cards that could discard it. But even if your opponent doesn't use Disciples, Amon could be useful if he is part of a larger black T2 defense (Phillies, Greeks, Sadducees, Simon the Magician) to recur Devourer, Foolish Advice, Babel, Bringing Fear, Overwhelmed by Phillies, Abom, etc.

CJSports · « **Reply #35 on:** March 10, 2011, 12:40:42 PM »

There is something called cannot be negated banding. Gomer to KoT outnumbers James and Thad.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #36 on:** March 10, 2011, 12:48:21 PM »

Gomer can't band if there are 3 disciples in play, so good try, but not going to work.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #37 on:** March 10, 2011, 01:10:04 PM »

So? He said James banded to Thad. Not James banded to Thad while Andrew is in play. Not James banded to Thad while Crown of Thorns are up. James banded to Thad. It works >:c

CJSports · « **Reply #38 on:** March 10, 2011, 02:19:06 PM »

N o even if he had every disciple in play I can still block with gomer to KOT and you don't get a LS unless you kill them, then I say Gates of Hell and screw you Thad.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #39 on:** March 10, 2011, 02:46:20 PM »

What part of Thad protects KoT from being banded to if enough Disciples are out did you miss when Alex pointed it out earlier.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #40 on:** March 10, 2011, 03:08:20 PM »

In simpler terms:

Protect=cannot be targeted.

Banding=targeting whoever you're banding to

CJSports · « **Reply #41 on:** March 10, 2011, 03:10:04 PM »

Wow i didn't realize you couldn't use banding. Oh well here comes 12fg.

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #42 on:** March 10, 2011, 03:17:25 PM »

The problem with blocking higher is, well, aocp 4-5x.

crustpope · « **Reply #43 on:** March 10, 2011, 03:18:22 PM »

Leviathan, 12 fingered giant, Potw, any king of israel with Gated of Jerusalem up...

thad has some counters...

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #44 on:** March 10, 2011, 04:07:34 PM »

Quote from: jmhartz on March 10, 2011, 11:36:04 AM

Once AotL and Grapes are gone and Manasseh is in discard pile, Amon can block Thad all day CBN style.

Before getting all excited about recursion as the be all to end all, people may want to consider why Forgotten History and Burning Up the Chaff have been mentioned in this thread by two (excellent) players who have been known to play Disciple offenses from time to time.

Quote from: crustpope on March 10, 2011, 03:18:22 PM

Leviathan, 12 fingered giant, Potw, any king of israel with Gated of Jerusalem up...

Leviathan... AoCP/My Lord and My God
12FG... AoCP/My Lord and My God
PotW... RoD + AoCP/My Lord and My God/Fall Like Lightning
Any King of Judah + GoJ... AoCP/My Lord and My God (Where "Any" means the 2 with toughness > 6 and Amon)

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thad has some counters...

And two years ago in T1 there were some counters to TGT.

CJSports · « **Reply #45 on:** March 10, 2011, 04:59:43 PM »

Personally, I think satan's seat is the easiest way to stop it but otherwise it doesn't have to many uses.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #46 on:** March 10, 2011, 05:01:06 PM »

D-Raid eats SS. And calls it yummy.

Josh · « **Reply #47 on:** March 10, 2011, 05:10:39 PM »

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on March 10, 2011, 04:07:34 PM

Quote from: jmhartz on March 10, 2011, 11:36:04 AM
Once AotL and Grapes are gone and Manasseh is in discard pile, Amon can block Thad all day CBN style.
Before getting all excited about recursion as the be all to end all, people may want to consider why Forgotten History and Burning Up the Chaff have been mentioned in this thread by two (excellent) players who have been known to play Disciple offenses from time to time.

Yeah I know. And it's silly that just one evil character, along with 3 other necessary cards, is possibly a reliable stop to Thad. Some brigades don't even have a way to beat him.

My fear is that the counters created for Thad will mess up other parts of the game. The "next generation" of special abilities is "cannot be protected against/from" and will work just like CBN. But having an evil character that says something like "Evil enhancements cannot be protected against" would be scary. Maybe "Heroes in battle cannot be protected against evil enhancements" would work.

The Guardian · « **Reply #48 on:** March 10, 2011, 05:41:53 PM »

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My fear is that the counters created for Thad will mess up other parts of the game. The "next generation" of special abilities is "cannot be protected against/from" and will work just like CBN. But having an evil character that says something like "Evil enhancements cannot be protected against" would be scary. Maybe "Heroes in battle cannot be protected against evil enhancements" would work.

Three words...

"Regardless of protection"

CJSports · « **Reply #49 on:** March 10, 2011, 06:25:23 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on March 10, 2011, 05:01:06 PM

D-Raid eats SS. And calls it yummy.

Honestly, I haven't seen D-Raid being used that much. I would put satan's seat on pergumum anyways if I was playing with Satan's seat.

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