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nope immune means you can't kill me, ignore i walk by you.

Quote from: Ring Wraith on January 29, 2010, 04:36:29 PM

immunity isn't that hard to stop. ignore is.

But arnt immunity, and ignore the same?

Immunity = Can not be effected by (Card that the first card is immune against)'s Attack */, enhancements or S.A. unless they are regardless of immunity/interrupt the immunity. You still need your attack to be high enough to kill the other person, because of this they only can play cards till their defense /* is higher than your offense */. After that it is a stalemate and initiative passes back and forth.

Ignore = Can not be effected by (Card that the first card is immune against)'s anything, you also kick them out of battle if they don't negate by the end of battle, because of this they have infinite ability to play cards.

^ That is true, but only if every character on a side of the battle is being ignored. Once you start ignoring a few characters out of banding chains, things get a little more complicated.

I agree with what YMT has been repeating.  Obviously we can't do away with themes, and I like that the themes are being split up.  The problem, in my opinion, is that the themes are so powerful, players don't want to use most non-theme cards.  A competitive blue brigade deck will currently only be Genesis.  Older cards like Thomas aren't used often because they are simply not competitive enough.

I don't vehemently disagree with themes, I just basically wish that the majority of combos are not pre-made.  I remember coming up with sweet combos that were completely unique (well...probably unique).  In order to be competitive, one cannot be original (of course there are exceptions).  Just my .02 cents!



BTW, Bryon, thank you for this opportunity to discuss new possibilities!  We all appreciate the hard work that "ROSES" puts in.

     only read to page 4 of the thread so idk if this has been mentioned but i would like to see a way to save a discarded EC. Only Seven Sons and two healing cards come to my head! too bad that Torment doesnt work against Aotl (even though the wealth of Good Healing Enhs. work against CM and Healing of Naaman doesnt even allow u to keep ur dag gum EC!) i can c how EC recursion and healing can b abused (imagine an Emperor Nero that wont ever leave with Household Idols and Lampstand up), but it would b nice to c just one card that can help out an EC (whehter demon, human, and agianst Aotl etc.) that cant be abused (by lets say Providing Angel...tho it would b wicked fun!)

theres that and i agree with the whole play first Enh. stuff for good. i live in constand fear of my Ecs being nuked in my territory! what to do...keep em in my hand (but darn it can only hold so many Ecs, Enhs, Heros, Dominants, and cards u cnat afford to let ur opponent see!) and the protect forts are so Char. specific (and discarded easily with Trumpet Blast, Samsons Sacrifice etc.) that a hardcore FBN guy like me takes a hard blow agianst AoCp. oh well.

Go FBN!!! 

Quote from: marc on March 02, 2010, 12:53:33 PM

(imagine an Emperor Nero that wont ever leave with Household Idols and Lampstand up),

Philistines has a way to do almost exactly that: For the cost of just one evil card, which can be recurrable if you play it right, you can use Philstine Outpost to retrieve Philistine Garrison from the discard pile.

which is why I play FBTN! oh... wait...

yeah that slipped my mind, however that can be broke up by any fortress killer (tho still effective). i guess i was more focused on a straight-up evil healing card, that would be a much harder combo to kill (assuming ur oppenent doesnt play that wonderful FBN stratagy to negate Providing Angel). do u think that evil could use a bit more healing, recursion, etc. that could be used for any EC, professorA?

very happy to see doms, forts, and pre-block ignore at the top.

I'm glad they get hit, but not nerf hammered.

Oh, and a little "insider trading" info: expect the price of the "N.T. hero only" Lost Soul to drop a bit by late August. 

I can't see how it will, considering right now only 2 strategies use NT's, and the other ones will be hard to add to in just one set.

I can't see how it will, considering right now only 2 strategies use NT's, and the other ones will be hard to add to in just one set.

I'll assume your talking about White (NT Females) and Gold (Luke).  Angels also have a decent amount of NT characters, but they can't really hold their own.  We'll probably never see enough NT Priests to matter.

In a set called "Disciples" I expect to see at least a few of the Disciples reprinted.  Will they all get put into one brigade, two brigades or three brigades?  Will they be scattered among all the brigades like in Apostles? 

I have a feeling that they won't be printed in any of the four brigades mentioned above.  Which of the remaining four brigades (red, green, purple and blue) do you think will get them?

Which of the remaining four brigades (red, green, purple and blue) do you think will get them?

I think Green is the most likely, as the only two cards in the game that reference disciples are Martha's Hospitality and Ordained as a Disciple. Not to mention a few of the disciples can be classified as prophets. Purple or Blue are also likely, but hopefully Deacons will get one (if not both ) of those two brigades. I highly doubt Red will get disciples, especially knowing what I already do about the new set, and I also highly doubt that the disciples will be scattered, as the playtesters have voiced their opposition to this already. (Look for that one thread where someone (Sean or Pol I think) made a set of disciples reprints and you should find this.)