Author Topic: REQUEST: What does your favorite theme/culture need? (Read 59122 times)

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #100 on:** December 10, 2009, 05:33:33 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on December 10, 2009, 05:30:25 PM

Also, I don't want to sit there and read something to my opponent... that's kind of weird.

Yeah, I guess, and I'm not fond of timing out against RLK's.

lightningninja · « **Reply #101 on:** December 10, 2009, 05:34:20 PM »

Yeah sorry Stamp... that was a lot of opposition VERY fast.

Your other idea was good though...

Bryon · « **Reply #102 on:** December 10, 2009, 05:53:54 PM »

Actually, I really like the variation of STAMP's idea, as described by RED (name the card, rather than state the reference).

We used to do something similar. Whenever we drew cards, we had to read the first 7 words of the scripture on one of those cards that we had just drawn. That gave players a hint of what you had in your hand. Of course, this was back before second edition, so the card pool was smaller and it made it easier to guess.

I wouldn't want the card to be too time consuming, but something similar to STAMP/RED's idea would be pretty fun. You can remember the card titles of the cards you have in hand, and the reference read to you would make it fairly obvious. However, if you got mixed up, you'd accidentally reveal the name of another card in your hand to your opponent, plus lose the card you didn't guess. That's pretty neat.

Arch Angel · « **Reply #103 on:** December 10, 2009, 05:59:46 PM »

I think it's definitely time to pick up on Faithraider's idea of cards that grant identifiers.

Here's some ideas

Red · « **Reply #104 on:** December 10, 2009, 06:03:27 PM »

yay adknowlegded by bryon i'm on a roll.

adamfincher · « **Reply #105 on:** December 10, 2009, 06:05:53 PM »

Well... It would be really cool if we got some starter decks with T/C enhancments, and a few new characters and enhancments and some old ones as well.
It could be
Teal/Orange and Greeks
and
Red/ Blue warriors/Gray
I just dont know if that make since to have warriors fight against demons... or we could do
Silver/Gray
And
Red,Blue Warriors/Orange and Black Demons & Greeks
Though i think that teal needs starters. Gray would definately be Syrians, and silver would be NT angels. Orange would be nt demons.
These decks would be easily expandable. SO they would be great for old and new players. Send me a Pm if my idea is accepted lol

Master KChief · « **Reply #106 on:** December 10, 2009, 06:36:28 PM »

Quote from: Bryon on December 10, 2009, 05:53:54 PM

Actually, I really like the variation of STAMP's idea, as described by RED (name the card, rather than state the reference).

We used to do something similar. Whenever we drew cards, we had to read the first 7 words of the scripture on one of those cards that we had just drawn. That gave players a hint of what you had in your hand. Of course, this was back before second edition, so the card pool was smaller and it made it easier to guess.

I wouldn't want the card to be too time consuming, but something similar to STAMP/RED's idea would be pretty fun. You can remember the card titles of the cards you have in hand, and the reference read to you would make it fairly obvious. However, if you got mixed up, you'd accidentally reveal the name of another card in your hand to your opponent, plus lose the card you didn't guess. That's pretty neat.

what was the name of that one dead ccg that utilized a similiar mechanic? ...principality? oh. yeah.

Red · « **Reply #107 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:14:56 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on December 10, 2009, 06:36:28 PM

Quote from: Bryon on December 10, 2009, 05:53:54 PM
Actually, I really like the variation of STAMP's idea, as described by RED (name the card, rather than state the reference).

We used to do something similar. Whenever we drew cards, we had to read the first 7 words of the scripture on one of those cards that we had just drawn. That gave players a hint of what you had in your hand. Of course, this was back before second edition, so the card pool was smaller and it made it easier to guess.

I wouldn't want the card to be too time consuming, but something similar to STAMP/RED's idea would be pretty fun. You can remember the card titles of the cards you have in hand, and the reference read to you would make it fairly obvious. However, if you got mixed up, you'd accidentally reveal the name of another card in your hand to your opponent, plus lose the card you didn't guess. That's pretty neat.

what was the name of that one dead ccg that utilized a similiar mechanic? ...principality? oh. yeah.

dude don't be bitter about it just cuz you don't agree with what this game is based on.

Master KChief · « **Reply #108 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:24:20 PM »

Quote from: RED on December 10, 2009, 07:14:56 PM

Quote from: Master KChief on December 10, 2009, 06:36:28 PM
Quote from: Bryon on December 10, 2009, 05:53:54 PM
Actually, I really like the variation of STAMP's idea, as described by RED (name the card, rather than state the reference).

We used to do something similar. Whenever we drew cards, we had to read the first 7 words of the scripture on one of those cards that we had just drawn. That gave players a hint of what you had in your hand. Of course, this was back before second edition, so the card pool was smaller and it made it easier to guess.

I wouldn't want the card to be too time consuming, but something similar to STAMP/RED's idea would be pretty fun. You can remember the card titles of the cards you have in hand, and the reference read to you would make it fairly obvious. However, if you got mixed up, you'd accidentally reveal the name of another card in your hand to your opponent, plus lose the card you didn't guess. That's pretty neat.

what was the name of that one dead ccg that utilized a similiar mechanic? ...principality? oh. yeah.
dude don't be bitter about it just cuz you don't agree with what this game is based on.

did i disagree with what this game is based on? no. am i bitter about it? no. im trying to draw a parallel here, if that escaped you. reading/reciting is rarely fun for any kind of game, as the general consensus has shown.

STAMP · « **Reply #109 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:30:56 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on December 10, 2009, 07:24:20 PM

did i disagree with what this game is based on? no. am i bitter about it? no. im trying to draw a parallel here, if that escaped you. reading/reciting is rarely fun for any kind of game, as the general consensus has shown.

Yeah, I hear Trivial Pursuit and other trivia games are going bankrupt since nobody likes reading the questions.

Master KChief · « **Reply #110 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:35:36 PM »

i dont see what those games have to do with reading and reciting.

jtay · « **Reply #111 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:49:20 PM »

Despite its Biblical basis, Redemption does have some potential to attract a secular audience simply because it is a well designed CCG. The requirement to have an understanding of scripture would probably make Redemption look like the many other "cheesy" Christian games out there. Also you would might risk losing whatever secular audience Redemption has.

Besides, I know MTG has interesting passages on their cards, and I don't think that an understanding of them is required to play the game (please correct me if I'm wrong). They're there to intrigue you, and if you are so intrigued, you can go and read the storyline on which the game is based. Redemption's Biblical passages should do the same.

Bryon · « **Reply #112 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:49:36 PM »

What does reciting have to do with anything? I just said you should guess a card title after hearing the reference of the card read to you. Apparently I wasn't clear enough.

Just because an ability appeared in a dead game does not mean Redemption can't have ONE card with a similar ability.

Oh noes! Decipher's Lord of the Rings had weapons! And that game is DEAD! Redemption better not have weapons or it will be lame! /sarcasm

Master KChief · « **Reply #113 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:55:34 PM »

Quote from: jtay on December 10, 2009, 07:49:20 PM

Despite its Biblical basis, Redemption does have some potential to attract a secular audience simply because it is a well designed CCG. The requirement to have an understanding of scripture would probably make Redemption look like the many other "cheesy" Christian games out there. Also you would might risk losing whatever secular audience Redemption has.

Besides, I know MTG has interesting passages on their cards, and I don't think that an understanding of them is required to play the game (please correct me if I'm wrong). They're there to intrigue you, and if you are so intrigued, you can go and read the storyline on which the game is based. Redemption's Biblical passages should do the same.

^^^ what he said. quoting/guessing/reciting scripture/card names would be pretty lame/cheesy.

and no, mtg does not require any player to have knowledge of the flavor text to play or use any card in the game.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #114 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:56:48 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on December 10, 2009, 07:35:36 PM

i dont see what those games have to do with reading and reciting.

You read the question and the person recites an answer.

I have to agree with chief on this one. Making someone recite a verse might be great among christians but not among the unsaved. Many use this as a way to show people about God without bible thumping ya know? Many condemn a game on the word being "Christian" let alone if they have to quote verses. Thats just my 3.1415.... cents though. I like the idea as a home rule though.

Red · « **Reply #115 on:** December 10, 2009, 08:19:34 PM »

you don't have to RECITE anything with the idea i came up with you name a card.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #116 on:** December 10, 2009, 10:21:10 PM »

But SOMEONE has to read something aloud. If it's the actual text, it will be annoying and will take too long, and if it's the verse reference, it will be too hard to guess. I will side with those who say it's a bad idea. I don't think we should go changing the game's mechanics in such a way.

STAMP · « **Reply #117 on:** December 10, 2009, 10:36:43 PM »

FYI, I've played against players who talk way more than if I recited every card scripture in my deck. Sheesh.

Anyway, I like Bryon's idea which is based on RED's idea. Satisfied?

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #118 on:** December 10, 2009, 10:44:48 PM »

Quote from: STAMP on December 10, 2009, 10:36:43 PM

FYI, I've played against players who talk way more than if I recited every card scripture in my deck. Sheesh.

Anyway, I like Bryon's idea which is based on RED's idea. Satisfied?

those players are the smart ones. usually, they're crafty RLK's, and the talkative ones REALLY mess up the good players.

I don't care for it. I guess if it's only a few cards, but still... I learn enough about the game by just seeing the cards. I mean, if I didn't play redemption, there would be NO way I'd know who Sennacharib is.

Perri · « **Reply #119 on:** December 10, 2009, 10:49:03 PM »

On one hand, I think if it's only a card or two, it could be really cool/interesting. On the other hand, I'm not sure I want to feel like I have to memorize things or answer questions while playing Redemption. I think if it's done well it could be fun though.

I'm not sure who said it, but I also like the idea of more luck based cards like Angry Mob based on flipping a coin or rolling a dice or something. Or really weird stuff, like the card that I can't remember that discards a character if the opponent has an odd number of them.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #120 on:** December 10, 2009, 10:57:57 PM »

Balance?

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #121 on:** December 10, 2009, 10:59:16 PM »

No, he's reffering to 'Angel Chariots' . (I think)

Perri · « **Reply #122 on:** December 10, 2009, 11:21:47 PM »

Found it!

The Third Seal

Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Silver • Ability: 3 / 3 • Class: None • Special Ability: Each player with an odd number of Evil Characters in Territory must discard one Evil Character. Owner's choice. May not be prevented or negated.

Master KChief · « **Reply #123 on:** December 10, 2009, 11:35:55 PM »

i think we finally need to make ninjas into its own theme/culture.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #124 on:** December 10, 2009, 11:54:57 PM »

Magicians really need some withdraw enhancements.

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Author Topic: REQUEST: What does your favorite theme/culture need? (Read 59122 times)

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