Author Topic: Redemption MetaGaming: Giving You The Edge (Read 39373 times)

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #25 on:** April 22, 2013, 04:41:22 PM »

Overall, I think the idea that you guys are doing is GREAT. I'm just trying to give some constructive criticism as you are still getting all the details worked out.

I also watched the whole 36 mins, and enjoyed parts of it. I do think that it might be better if you guys planned what you were going to talk about a bit more before filming or do a bit more editing/post-production. I'm not saying to script it completely because I think it's more fun to have the natural flow of conversation, but having an outline at least might help to keep things focused and moving faster so that it doesn't take quite so long.

I would actually leave in the inside jokes as it makes it more fun for people who already know most of the strategy/content of video. You probably won't give many strategy tips that Red doesn't already know for instance, but he might keep watching your channel just to see if you mention him again

I would focus the time more on Redemption itself. You spent a long time talking about your Pokemon experiences when really the only thing that related to Redemption was that the TopCut website helped you become competitive quickly and inspired you to create this YouTube channel to help others do the same in Redemption. You could have just said that in one sentence and saved a lot of time.

On a technical note, Alex, you're sound gets kinda staticky every once in a while, but it's not a big deal. I like how you switch back and forth depending on who's talking, and I felt like you both contributed significantly to the conversation. I might give some more suggestions later, but these are the first ones that popped in my head.

Overall, I hope you guys keep these coming. I know that they'll just keep getting better.

redemptioncousin · « **Reply #26 on:** April 22, 2013, 07:40:53 PM »

I haven't been on these boards in forever and I don't really know Westy all that well, but I thought I'd give my two cents. My brother told me that you guys were doing this and I thought it was awesome. I too watched your introductory video and came out with relatively the same feedback as Prof Underwood.

First, I didn't mind that it was so long as you guys were mostly talking about background information which, let's face it, no one that doesn't know you will really watch.
Second, I don't know how much video editing background either of you have, but perhaps a solution to your RTS interface problem is posting the card you're currently talking about (or making a RA or block with) on the side of the screen; either in picture form or just an ability description. If you watch any kind of tournament coverage (especially MTG) you can't really see the cards being played on the table but they show it on the side like so:
http://s1302.photobucket.com/user/redemptioncousin/library/MTG%20snapshot
If you could figure that out, I think you'd reach a whole new level.

Anyways, great job so far!

Matt

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #27 on:** April 22, 2013, 08:25:29 PM »

James appreciates the shout-out!

You're forgiven for costing me Natz Westy.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #28 on:** April 22, 2013, 09:42:04 PM »

He mentioned costing you nats. At least I think so - I watched it earlier today and don't remember when he mentioned it.

He did not mention costing me teams for being so bad.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #29 on:** April 22, 2013, 10:04:14 PM »

Thanks guys.

FWIW, we did actually pseudo-script the 36 min video with a skeleton outline. Most of the awkward transitions are us not knowing if the other is done, and the tangents we get on because we were having a conversation essentially.

We did talk about Pokemon a lot, but Matt caught why. This video wasn't necessarily content driven, and is only going to be watched by people who know us or are interested in who we are. It's just a background of the channel essentially.

I am aware of my static issue. I'm not sure if its a mic issue or a connection issue, but I'm looking into it. The switching back and forth is an auto feature of Google Hangouts actually, but it is nice.

Neither of us have much video editing experience. I think the picture Matt posted is a good example of a finished product that would be a goal. We are working on the practical updates to start with.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #30 on:** April 22, 2013, 10:09:44 PM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on April 22, 2013, 10:07:10 PM

More importantly, the point you're looking for is 24:00, RDT.

He's watched the whole thing, so i think that's why he's forgiving Westy.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #31 on:** April 22, 2013, 10:18:13 PM »

Huh. I thought he said Westy forgot to mention it. Nevermind. This is why I don't post as much anymore.

Platinum_Angel · « **Reply #32 on:** April 23, 2013, 12:36:07 AM »

Unless I missed it how often will you post a video?

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #33 on:** April 23, 2013, 12:44:17 AM »

Quote from: Platinum_Angel on April 23, 2013, 12:36:07 AM

Unless I missed it how often will you post a video?

No set schedule. We will always post here when a new one goes up though.

Platinum_Angel · « **Reply #34 on:** April 23, 2013, 01:10:16 AM »

Sweet. I think a lot of people have already given ya'll different things to think about in making this better for everybody.

It would be cool if you did a 15-20 minute video with set segments every other week.

Segment examples:

-Combo Corner
-Best new deck submission in the complete deck forum
-highlight a defense/offense tier 1,2,3,4,etc. (cheap version and expensive version)
-phone,audio or video interview with a National Champion (their thoughts on new set cards,etc.)
-best new card in new card ideas forum
-list future new tournament dates
-highlight a recent RTS game

...and the list goes on and on and on...
(This could boost the number of people on the forum, new players, more players, etc. hint hint...

)
I guess you would defiantly need a video editor for this type of thing.

Maybe there is someone on the forum that would be willing to help?

Cactusgamedesign.com may post the video link on their website?

...the possibilities are endless...

Just my

worth

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #35 on:** April 23, 2013, 01:30:45 AM »

Content ideas and suggestions aren't going to be an issue for awhile. Here's some of the possibilities you can expect in the near future:

- more RTS games [we are focusing on uploading games with big meta decks like TGT, Genesis, "The Deck", FBTNB, Disciples, etc, but after that, expect random games to just show up]
-deck profiles [these in-depth discussions of deck skeletons will highlight staples in meta decks and discuss possible additions]
-combo and strategy sessions [these short discussion of neat trick are designed to bring your game to the next level]
-new set discussion [when list is published]
-thoughts on the meta at large [What's the play at your next big tournament?]
-history of the game [Why is everything CBN or CBP?!?!?!]
-tutorial video on how to play redemption [seems like we should, though this is not a focus]

My guess is that for now, we can produce between 1-3 videos a week to get the RTS games and basic deck videos online and go from there. But again, I emphasize that's a guess, especially since we both have finals over the next two weeks. After that, we might be able to start producing a bit quicker (and then it will slow down again in June-July quantity wise while I work at my internship with the Treasury and take some night classes).

Possible video formats are as follows:

- RTS game [seen already]
- Video Chat [seen already]
- Deck profile [yet to be released]

Any topic above currently will fit into one of these three formats.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #36 on:** April 23, 2013, 02:12:43 AM »

Quote from: redemptioncousin on April 22, 2013, 07:40:53 PM

I haven't been on these boards in forever and I don't really know Westy all that well, but I thought I'd give my two cents. My brother told me that you guys were doing this and I thought it was awesome. I too watched your introductory video and came out with relatively the same feedback as Prof Underwood.

First, I didn't mind that it was so long as you guys were mostly talking about background information which, let's face it, no one that doesn't know you will really watch.
Second, I don't know how much video editing background either of you have, but perhaps a solution to your RTS interface problem is posting the card you're currently talking about (or making a RA or block with) on the side of the screen; either in picture form or just an ability description. If you watch any kind of tournament coverage (especially MTG) you can't really see the cards being played on the table but they show it on the side like so:
http://s1302.photobucket.com/user/redemptioncousin/library/MTG%20snapshot
If you could figure that out, I think you'd reach a whole new level.

Anyways, great job so far!

Matt

Hi, I'm Westy.

I don't have too much video editing background--I'm an audio guy--but I do plan on learning. I don't have the money for Final Cut Pro or anything like that (nor money for a better computer that can actually run FCP...), so I'm using iMovie. I know you can do one picture over a video in iMovie, though I haven't done it just yet. It's more likely that I'll stack the video and have Olijar's hand on the video in the future. I could export it and then re-import it to do more pictures, but that'd be a ton of work for something that might not even show up too well.

The quality is an issue with iMovie. The Quicktime video looks fine, but when I export it, it gets all pixelated. I've been doing some googling and am looking to fix it, but as Alex said, this is finals week, so I won't have a lot of time until I get home in a couple weeks. I do still plan on releasing some more content (currently working on a deck profile) to keep things moving, but I won't be able to work on making better videos for ~2 weeks.

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #37 on:** April 23, 2013, 03:43:32 AM »

hey guys i do have fcp 7 etc and can edit for you guys if you wanna send me stuff just let me know.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #38 on:** April 26, 2013, 01:29:46 AM »

Just recorded a new video today. Wow is it exciting! Stay tuned for it to come online tomorrow!

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #39 on:** April 27, 2013, 12:45:29 AM »

New Set Discussion!

New Set Spoiler Discussion

Again, sorry for my mic. Maybe it's time for a kickstarter for me to get a new mic!

For the record, I'm pretty sure I know why the static is happening, and there's little I can do to fix it (because I don't really have other mic options).

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #40 on:** April 27, 2013, 01:20:12 AM »

You don't have to watch the whole thing, but the first 10 seconds are definitely worth it. That awkward moment when...

Olijar (Disciples) versus Westy (The Deck)

Gabe · « **Reply #41 on:** April 27, 2013, 02:35:08 AM »

You guys are funny and informative. I want to see a guest appearance from John Early.

Btw, "withdraw" simply means to return the character(s) in battle to territory. "Topdeck" and "Underdeck" are their own special ability and not considered a withdraw. They're key words that replace the lengthy "place this card on the top/bottom of your deck" that's found on so many cards.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #42 on:** April 28, 2013, 12:12:00 PM »

Any of the spoiled cards going to make it into the Diciples deck Olijar? I think Daniel shuts down NT demons pretty good. Maybe something to stop him. Like I said, Nazzy can go in this deck too.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #43 on:** April 28, 2013, 12:16:54 PM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on April 28, 2013, 12:12:00 PM

Any of the spoiled cards going to make it into the Diciples deck Olijar? I think Daniel shuts down NT demons pretty good. Maybe something to stop him. Like I said, Nazzy can go in this deck too.

Peter and Nazzy should be in disciples decks now. Maybe the soul.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #44 on:** April 29, 2013, 10:33:26 AM »

Peter is completely broken. Free LS and draw 1? I have ran Nazzy in my list since we did the sideboard in ROOT. Still, the option to splash red with Zealot and Peter(ap) has value. Broken Cheribum hurts us and we're not even a tier 1 deck...Hezzy Ring?

Arrthoa · « **Reply #45 on:** April 29, 2013, 11:35:58 AM »

Hezzy ring wouldn't stop GC, because if I recall Hezzy's Ring is a Prevent search and GC is cannot be negated so it wouldn't be stopped by that.

Red · « **Reply #46 on:** April 29, 2013, 11:36:37 AM »

Quote from: Arrthoa on April 29, 2013, 11:35:58 AM

Hezzy ring wouldn't stop GC, because if I recall Hezzy's Ring is a Prevent search and GC is cannot be negated so it wouldn't be stopped by that.

It's a restrict.

Josh · « **Reply #47 on:** April 29, 2013, 12:11:17 PM »

In one corner, we will have The Deck and similar search-based decks that run Golden Cherubim. And in the other, Naz will be in draw-heavy decks, both to stop Golden Cherubim and to protect against Mayhem.

Quote from: RTSmaniac on April 29, 2013, 10:33:26 AM

Peter is completely broken. Free LS and draw 1?

If he is a free lost soul, then he is broken (and I personally don't think he is). The D1 doesn't really compare with a free LS.

browarod · « **Reply #48 on:** April 29, 2013, 12:34:38 PM »

This Peter will be replacing the red one in my Gardenciples deck for sure.

New SoG undoubtedly will, too.

Mageduckey · « **Reply #49 on:** April 29, 2013, 12:45:25 PM »

So in a deck that can draw upwards of 20 cards in a turn already, we're going to complain about them being able to draw 1 (instead of them using Matt to draw 3)?

As for the "free soul": If people used actual defenses, they wouldn't have to worry about TGT walk-ins.

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Author Topic: Redemption MetaGaming: Giving You The Edge (Read 39373 times)

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