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Oh, you play T2? Well, that's a little different; banding chains don't work too well in T2. I can definitely see 5 Ram's Horns being really fun. In T1 though, banding chains work very well with negates (along with a few art killers), because your opponent has to kill all of you, and all you have to do is make sure he doesn't kill all of you...by using negates of course.

Yeah, it's pretty fun to band Heldai to Abishai to Adino with his Spear for that 30/28 FbtN (mostly) combo. And that can go in just about any kind of deck as well.

Yeah, I think that Adino should go in every red deck just like Jephthah.
They're staples for a purely red deck.

Adino is a must-have for most Red decks, I agree with that, but I would have to disagree with your approval for Jepthah. He is a powerful character indeed, but for many players like myself, he is not worth the risk of discarding that random card from deck. Of course, I am excepting the LSL deck, but LSL decks are typically not confined to the Red brigade.

I can see why you say that, but I like the chance of discarding a lost soul.
Besides I usually don't lose out that badly.

The best deck I ever made was a Red/Crimson deck that I had modified for well over 3 years. I used Jepthah frequently, but I found that the "one-time" ability was a turnoff, despite the risks involved. In a game where I used Battle Cry every turn, Jepthah soon became a dead weight. As far as stand-alone offenses are concerned, Jepthah is nice, but he is easily thwarted with all of the FoOF & Priest "Protection Fortresses."

As for getting rid of a lost soul, I would only really consider that when making a LSL deck. With new cards appearing like the Thankful Leper, the discarding of lost souls looks like it might be over-rated.

In the whole scheme of things, by simply leaving your offense to chance, you might eventually come to the same conclusion that I have reached after hours of consideration; Jepthah is not always worth it. Jepthah is too unpredictable for me.

If you feel like you don't lose out that badly, that may be because you don't have nearly enough to lose in your deck. (I don't mean this to sound rude, but I have found the "risk" factor to be my judge when I build a deck. It is also for this reason that I almost yelled when I saw the cardlist for RoA.)

I just have enough copies of my battle winners that losing 1 card rarely matters to me.
Besides I like using Jephthah, even just for the fun of the risk.

After reading your other posts I would agree with you as far as Type 2 is concerned, since I suspect that is where you are coming from. Nevertheless, for Type 1, I still hold to my previous comments. The larger the deck, the greater the allowance for risk, but since I typically play with 50-63 card decks, I am always apprehensive when dealing with the "Risk" factor.

You know, ever since I discarded SoG from the top of my deck with Jephthah, I have never used him in a deck again. If I ever made a Red/Brown deck, though, Jephthah, Haman, and Zeresh would be my very favorite characters.

Yeah, for type 1, I tend to lean more towards banding combos instead of battle winners.
In that case I might leave Jephthah out of the deck.
I just prefer playing type 2.
In fact I made a topic on the boards that mentions a type 1 deck that I made using red banding.
It's called Theme Defense if you'd like to look at it.

I looked at your deck. It has some similar properties to mine, except that I don't use the Big Red band. I use a shortcut....

I like Jael and Jael's Nail, personally.

You can only have 3 rams horns in t2. I had a red t2 deck but the combo I had came out WAY too slow. I used jahaziel to place Valor of warriors on the FOOF heroes. Then giant banding chain vs 1 enh and my hand full of negates. I had iaredemption for artifacts/Dungeons.

Yeah same. I used supa gad (cbn gad via pass prep + chemosh to make it 6/1) also. Gad worked decently my t2 one took too long to set up.

pshhh Red is overrated 

Cool.  It's neat talking with others who use red brigade.
Most of the people that I usually play with don't use red.
I personally favor red over all.
It's my favorite color and has my favorite card which you probably already knew.

Red has the most background out of all of the brigades, but I have not used it lately because I personally thought it was slighted by Rock of Ages. Furthermore, I have been using a role-reversal deck that I love. Nevertheless, I am sure that I will bring back my Red deck for Tournament use.

Edit: Un-shun!