Author Topic: New ideas (Read 7816 times)

12tipton3 · « **on:** March 17, 2010, 12:07:05 AM »

okay. I have tried all sorts of things. I like teal, tgt, fight by the numbers banding, and purple(non royal) I am out of ideas. I need a good one. here is the main problem,

teal is fantastic. when you use interrupts on joshua the high preist, followed by a battle winner, it is fun!

Christian martyr will be horrrid. followed by don-ing a chariot.what i could do w/ teal is use lampstand w/z-temple and chariot and be protected from don.

that brings us to fight by the numbers banding. this stratagy is almost so powerful it is not even fair. one word strikes fear into banding chains: Philistines! now with this in mind, the way to stop philistines is by doing spreading mildew w/ high places. but then you need a yellow brigade evil character in order to play it. and if you are doing crimson and ornange like i am, garden tomb shuts me down. And if i just do yellow, well, with the exception of a few decks, yellow just flat out stinks.

then we have purple, i like purple and teal. i got 3rd at a state tourney with a deck like that! but now, my club is "going rouge"(as in the words of sarah palin) which means i have to pick on theam and stick with it. i don't like that.

duel theams are fantastic.

Lastly we have garden tomb, garden tomb is fun! yet now, with all the fortress destruction going on, i do not want to be fortress dependant. my defense is fine. i think it is very close being a "championship defense" i don't want to reveal the defense till states! (yay

this is me being cool with a defense that finally works!)

I would like some offensive help. any suggestions on "going rouge?"

franta012 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 17, 2010, 12:14:25 AM »

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teal is fantastic. when you use interrupts on joshua the high preist, followed by a battle winner, it is fun! Christian martyr will be horrrid. followed by don-ing a chariot.what i could do w/ teal is use lampstand w/z-temple and chariot and be protected from don.

You could try Brass Serpent or I Am Healing. Just a suggestion. I'm not too much into T1, so I don't know the important offensive archetypes right now.

12tipton3 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 17, 2010, 01:02:23 AM »

I am healing just went into my deck. that means i am doing teal! Thank you!

Korunks · « **Reply #3 on:** March 17, 2010, 07:57:43 AM »

Rogue is a easier in some ways, less worry about color mismatch, but combo colors are still fun. If I were you I would splash a touch of purple with your priest and a Melchizedek for some more two color tastiness. I am currently working on 2 dual color decks, but also have 2 rogue decks. Each one has there strength's and weakness's you just need to find out what works for you. Also don't feel compelled to do something just because the Meta Game in our club is shifting towards rogue. Just be yourself and have fun.

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 17, 2010, 09:22:41 PM »

md meta shifting rogue hmm interesting

lightningninja · « **Reply #5 on:** March 18, 2010, 01:27:43 PM »

I still don't get how people win with just teal... 4 battle-winners?

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #6 on:** March 18, 2010, 01:38:48 PM »

Pretty much ZT banding helps a ton

Battle winners
Zeal
Burning I
T blast
Holy unto the Lord

missing any?

Professoralstad · « **Reply #7 on:** March 18, 2010, 01:40:35 PM »

Filling Zerubbabel's Temple

adotson85 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 18, 2010, 01:55:40 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on March 18, 2010, 01:27:43 PM

I still don't get how people win with just teal... 4 battle-winners?

Once you get Z's Temple set up with Cov w/ Phinehas, Z's Temple characters are very hard to stop due to their high offensive numbers. Your only options are to shuffle, set them aside, discard the Cov w/Phinehas, or discard/disable Z's Temple. Even if you manage to do this Z's Temple can be recurred and Cov. w/ Phinehas can be protected with Lampstand.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #9 on:** March 18, 2010, 02:02:02 PM »

Not only that, Phinehas and Scapegoat can essentially be a battle winner a good percentage of the time.

Gabe · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2010, 11:00:59 AM »

It's been rare that I've played Jehoiada's Strength and not won the battle.

12tipton3 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 22, 2010, 03:42:44 PM »

Teal only needs 2 more things. A way to bring back battle winners, and a fight by the numbers character.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #12 on:** March 22, 2010, 04:19:10 PM »

Quote from: 12tipton3 on March 22, 2010, 03:42:44 PM

Teal only needs 2 more things. A way to bring back battle winners, and a fight by the numbers character.

Yeah, and Brown needs an Archer and Horses.

D-man · « **Reply #13 on:** March 22, 2010, 04:32:25 PM »

Quote from: 12tipton3 on March 22, 2010, 03:42:44 PM

Teal only needs 2 more things. A way to bring back battle winners, and a fight by the numbers character.

Elishana can bring back back battlewinners.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #14 on:** March 22, 2010, 05:40:23 PM »

Quote from: D-man on March 22, 2010, 04:32:25 PM

Elishana can bring back back battlewinners.

as can Jehoram the Priest, and to a degree, so can Joidia.

12tipton3 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:47:29 PM »

Burning incense should be considered an offering, read Leviticus 16:11-14 and tell me otherwise. joida should be able to recur it.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #16 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:33:12 PM »

Quote from: 12tipton3 on March 23, 2010, 05:47:29 PM

Burning incense should be considered an offering, read Leviticus 16:11-14 and tell me otherwise. joida should be able to recur it.

Maybe if they hurt pre-block ignore enough that will happen.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #17 on:** March 25, 2010, 12:26:48 AM »

Quote from: 12tipton3 on March 23, 2010, 05:47:29 PM

Burning incense should be considered an offering, read Leviticus 16:11-14 and tell me otherwise. joida should be able to recur it.

if it was considered an offering, then it'd be old testament, and if it was old testament, then Eliashana could put it on Jehoram, and so on and so forth. T2 mainly. it'd be unlimited pre-block ignore. it'd be BAD.

12tipton3 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 25, 2010, 12:48:27 AM »

but scriptually, it was considered an offering no matter how the NT priests were using it. when the Lord, God-Almighty gave commands to his people(Israel) he wanted them to OFFER burnt incense to him. no matter how powerful or devestating it may be, it should still be considered an offering. it is not to powerful. 1st of all, here are counters to burning incense if it was ever called and offering: (a) defense with more then 1 color.(b) Large tree "tep" version (c) Hezikiah's signet ring. (d) Place enhancements.

the ruling would certantly not be broken. i would be pleased if the rule was changed. I just stated 4 ways to stop the card if the ruling was set up. there are probably other ways to stop it also.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #19 on:** March 25, 2010, 01:10:09 AM »

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(a) defense with more then 1 color.

Which, assuming you use an offense that isn't as slow as a turtle leaves you open to TGT.

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(b) Large tree "tep" version

One card in one brigade and since its NT the anti ignore LS, banks of the nile, etc. can't stop it. HAVEN'T THE POOR EGYPTIANS BEEN IGNORED ENOUGH?

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(c) Hezikiah's signet ring.

While stopping the recur, I can still Altar of burnt + Altar of I for CBN goodness, paired with a TGT it'd just be another easy LS.

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(d) Place enhancements.

Issue again is brigades and limited targets.

BTW: I argued this a long time ago(Pre ZT so priests weren't all FTWOMGBBQSauce), that it should be an offering. The official response was that "Offerings" refers to offerings burnt on the Altar of Burnt Offerings. I'd love to see it happen, but until Moses is a priest, I doubt it will.

Korunks · « **Reply #20 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:47:41 AM »

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the ruling would certantly not be broken. i would be pleased if the rule was changed. I just stated 4 ways to stop the card if the ruling was set up. there are probably other ways to stop it also.

I Disagree. I think that none of the counters that you mentioned are useful enough to stop a recurring pre-block ignore. With the mechanics of ignore being what they are I believe that we need to discourage pre-block ignore, not power it up. Z Temple needs NO help in being a viable strategy, they already have a way to be protected from almost anything, adding CBN( w/ Joshua) pre-block ignore would be foolishness in the extreme. Just my

Isildur · « **Reply #21 on:** March 25, 2010, 09:44:30 AM »

Quote from: BrianGabe on March 21, 2010, 11:00:59 AM

It's been rare that I've played Jehoiada's Strength and not won the battle.

Well it seems youve never seen me play Flight then

It works every time

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #22 on:** March 25, 2010, 10:43:52 AM »

Quote from: Isildur on March 25, 2010, 09:44:30 AM

Quote from: BrianGabe on March 21, 2010, 11:00:59 AM
It's been rare that I've played Jehoiada's Strength and not won the battle.
Well it seems youve never seen me play Flight then It works every time

Or Lurking or Unknown Nation to band in TFG.

Isildur · « **Reply #23 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:23:17 PM »

Yeah but you dont look as cool playing those cards as you do when you play Flight

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #24 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:27:49 PM »

Quote from: Isildur on March 25, 2010, 08:23:17 PM

Yeah but you dont look as cool playing those cards as you do when you play Flight

wyn.

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