Author Topic: Need an Offense (Read 9944 times)

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #25 on:** September 19, 2010, 12:29:05 AM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 16, 2010, 02:31:50 PM

Actually, it's Job, Dust and Ashes, Seraphim, Striking Herod, Job's Faith, Abraham's Descendant, and Jubilee.

why Abraham's Descendant?

lightningninja · « **Reply #26 on:** September 19, 2010, 12:30:47 AM »

It's another way to recur. You have Job's Faith, Jubilee, and Abraham's Descendent, and with no evil cards in their hand, that's 5 ls with sog and nj.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #27 on:** September 19, 2010, 12:41:04 AM »

I keep thinking about the Golgotha + Abraham's Descendant. I forget about the first part.

Red · « **Reply #28 on:** September 19, 2010, 09:42:58 AM »

Well noah's ark is fun but not reliable.(You need ten slots max I would say)

lightningninja · « **Reply #29 on:** September 19, 2010, 04:38:27 PM »

Okay... looking over the Job cards... how can you beat this? Cannot be Negated banding? Lol.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #30 on:** September 20, 2010, 02:03:19 AM »

An infinite Manasseh block assuming Abraham's Descendant is in his Discard, CBN banding with at least 23 defense (such as Manasseh>WS><Gomer>KoT), Set Fire on an ill-prepared Job player's D&A, or Convert a Gold Shield bearer to a Hero and Gold Shield Job to an off-colour (make sure your have a character with less than 12 offense and more than 6 defense).

lightningninja · « **Reply #31 on:** September 21, 2010, 01:22:23 AM »

He can be converted? I thought he would be protected from that...

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #32 on:** September 21, 2010, 01:29:59 AM »

You can do it while his SA is inactive (side-battles) or Negated (CoM, Gold Cow).

The Guardian · « **Reply #33 on:** September 21, 2010, 02:12:08 AM »

Ark of the Cov and I am Justice solve the banding chain problem.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #34 on:** September 21, 2010, 02:28:39 AM »

Assuming they don't have Torment or HT+Wandering Spirit involved (WS>SoT>Salome>Antipas>Herodias will beat Job even with Ark/IaJ). They can also chump block to use up Ark/IaJ (conveniently, Manasseh can chump block in addition to being part of a numbers block).

Professoralstad · « **Reply #35 on:** September 21, 2010, 11:22:27 AM »

Quote from: lightningninja on September 21, 2010, 01:22:23 AM

He can be converted? I thought he would be protected from that...

I'm pretty sure that Dust and Ashes would collect a Job converted by Gold Shield. Anything that an evil card does to Job is harm, so conversion, even to a new hero brigade, would send him there. Then in hand he gets reset.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #36 on:** September 21, 2010, 12:54:28 PM »

Notice that I specified a Gold Shield bearer that has been Converted himself (making Gold Shield a Good Enhancement and not Harmful to Job).

The M · « **Reply #37 on:** September 30, 2010, 09:24:21 PM »

Interesting concept.
Me likes.
Is there any card to get those enhancements back?

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #38 on:** September 30, 2010, 09:26:39 PM »

abraham's descendant. jubilee.

The M · « **Reply #39 on:** September 30, 2010, 09:34:49 PM »

oh. but abes descendant doesn't work right?

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #40 on:** September 30, 2010, 10:17:53 PM »

Quote from: The M on September 30, 2010, 09:34:49 PM

oh. but abes descendant doesn't work right?

That's what I thought at first, but the card has no Genesis qualification on it, so it works just as well (probably better) on Job as on anyone else.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #41 on:** October 01, 2010, 11:22:40 AM »

Quote from: BubbleBoy on September 30, 2010, 10:17:53 PM

Quote from: The M on September 30, 2010, 09:34:49 PM
oh. but abes descendant doesn't work right?

That's what I thought at first, but the card has no Genesis qualification on it, so it works just as well (probably better) on Job as on anyone else.

Abe's Descendant is crucial for a Job deck. It gets rid of the one card that can target Dust and Ashes, Set Fire, as well as any placed enhancement negating Job's ability.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #42 on:** October 01, 2010, 04:38:24 PM »

Technically ANB can target Dust and Ashes also. So done right you can Confusion D&A out after an ANB shuffle, thus making Job newbish again.

lightningninja · « **Reply #43 on:** October 01, 2010, 05:39:27 PM »

Done right you should have an end-game recurable defensive combo for any good defense-heavy deck...

CJSports · « **Reply #44 on:** October 01, 2010, 06:58:16 PM »

Watchful Servant
The New Covenent
Brass Serpent
Meeting the Messiah

Maybe throw in phineas zeal.
End of Story

lightningninja · « **Reply #45 on:** October 01, 2010, 07:20:01 PM »

I said defensive... also that doesn't leave you many options if they have CP + Golgotha.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #46 on:** October 01, 2010, 08:04:55 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on October 01, 2010, 07:20:01 PM

I said defensive... also that doesn't leave you many options if they have CP + Golgotha.

Watchful servant happens to be in the same brigade with Vengeance of eternal fire

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #47 on:** October 01, 2010, 08:09:47 PM »

That's nice, it's also not in the brigade that includes Benedictus.

lightningninja · « **Reply #48 on:** October 01, 2010, 08:11:14 PM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on October 01, 2010, 08:09:47 PM

That's nice, it's also not in the brigade that includes Benedictus.

Exactly. I found a way to get around it... but I kind of have to get lucky. If someone knows what to do... it won't happen, but I doubt anyone will. Haha because it's so stupid....

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #49 on:** October 01, 2010, 08:56:58 PM »

I also agree job is one of the best small offenses. It's also the best offense for a 100+ t1 deck, because you don't have nearly as much of an issue with duplicate unique heroes, as the offense is mostly enhancements.

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