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Re: White ignore enhancements
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2008, 12:02:23 AM »
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I would think exactly the opposite.  Pulling this off once would be cool.  But after that it would make for a very boring game for both players.  Anytime one player just walks in for repeated LSs and the win, it is very dissatisfying in my experience.  I have been on the winning and losing sides of these games and they just aren't very fun.
I have the complete opposite opinion.  Getting to the point where my opponent can't stop what I'm doing is really enjoyable for me.  I like seeing a combo come together and work to perfection.  I get more enjoyment from that than just winning random battles.  That isn't to say that I don't enjoy the other kinds of games though.  For sure I enjoy those, but there's something special about games where the 'unbeatable' combo comes out and dominates.  As and example, I played Kirk a decent time ago with a deck that had my anti-heroless combo in it(type 1).  I knew there'd be a chance that he would be playing heroless so I chose that deck to test it out as I hadn't used the combo in a deck before.  The combo came out and I won the game.  I remember these kinds of games more because of the satisfaction that comes from a combo working like it is supposed to.  Also, I wouldn't be bored if such a combo was used and worked against me.  That's one of those things that I would definitely give props to my opponent for a good, strong combo.  Even if I'm the victim, good strategy is good strategy.  I like to see good strategy.

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Re: White ignore enhancements
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2008, 01:20:05 AM »
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...Pulling this off once would be cool.  But after that it would make for a very boring game for both players...
...I chose that deck to test it out as I hadn't used the combo in a deck before...
Looks like we might actually agree.  It was cool to you because you hadn't done it before.  But if you did that every game, it would get boring for you and anyone you played with regularly.

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Re: White ignore enhancements
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2008, 09:52:21 AM »
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No, you're taking one sentence out my entire post and making it agree with you.  I would be just as pleased to use the combo again and again.  But this is more a type two mind set where you've usually got 4-5 of each card so the way you win battles tend to repeat itself.  It is not a coincidence that I enjoy type two a great deal more than type one.

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Re: White ignore enhancements
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2008, 10:17:34 AM »
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Considering that ignore isn't really all that tough to beat and there are now more cards to combat ignore strategies, AND Artifacts AND Fortresses, I really don't see what the problem is with being able to recur your battle winners, especially when it requires a blocker before it can be used, as opposed to an auto-ignore.

The thing that baffles me the most is complaining about the potential of a strategy like this from someone who used a Zeb deck against me in team play.

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Re: White ignore enhancements
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2008, 01:24:45 PM »
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Anti heroless combo sean? You wouldn't wanna PM me it would ya? :-p
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Re: White ignore enhancements
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2008, 02:59:04 PM »
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The thing that baffles me the most is complaining about the potential of a strategy like this from someone who used a Zeb deck against me in team play.
lol I will admit that I used a Zeb strategy in TEAM play (and failed miserably with it).  Just because I don't like the strategy doesn't mean that I don't see the potential of it :)  I also appreciate that there are some new cards in RoA to stop ignoring.  I just don't want any more strength being added to what the ignore strategy already has.

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Re: White ignore enhancements
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2008, 04:10:19 PM »
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There is nearly always something that can be done against any strategy on the books.  A person who finds himself truly without options, either has used up all his counters fending off a sustained attack on one front, or has not prepared himself to face that strategy (e.g. no J-Tower against deck discard).

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Re: White ignore enhancements
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2008, 04:14:47 PM »
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...being able to recur your battle winners, especially when it requires a blocker before it can be used, as opposed to an auto-ignore.

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Re: White ignore enhancements
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2008, 04:45:38 PM »
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There is nearly always something that can be done against any strategy on the books.  A person who finds himself truly without options, either has used up all his counters fending off a sustained attack on one front, or has not prepared himself to face that strategy (e.g. no J-Tower against deck discard).
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Re: White ignore enhancements
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2008, 10:43:18 PM »
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Anti heroless combo sean? You wouldn't wanna PM me it would ya? :-p
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Re: White ignore enhancements
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2008, 10:48:25 PM »
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Anti heroless combo sean? You wouldn't wanna PM me it would ya? :-p
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Re: White ignore enhancements
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2008, 11:22:49 PM »
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Yeah. You make a couple of rescues, activate the combo, use SoG+NJ, stop making rescue attempts so they can't kill your arts, and win on timeout.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2008, 02:32:30 PM by Tsavong Lah »
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Re: White ignore enhancements
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2008, 12:17:29 AM »
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Actually, you need to play SoG/NJ before activating Altar of Ahaz unless you want to risk letting them play their SoG/NJ when you have to deactivate AoA later so that you can play yours.

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Re: White ignore enhancements
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2008, 02:00:58 AM »
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Right, my bad. I switched the order a little.
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Re: White ignore enhancements
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2008, 02:04:01 PM »
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Ah that combo.
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