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I think your understanding of the rule is wrong. The rule is you can only make one successful rescue attempt per turn, and your opponent must have another turn before you have another rescue attempt. A successful rescue attempt should be defined as getting a soul because of game rule. In this case, The Long Day wouldn't work, but if you somehow found a way to play Primary Objective, draw a bunch of cards, play another PO, etc. then it should work, IMO.

There is no way to play 2 PO's in the same battle for effect: PO says "if making an RA", and then says "the battle continues as a battle challenge." So by the time you play the second one, you are not making an RA.

Ok, I see how it would work if your opponent had their hand protected but that leads back to my opponent cooperating to make my combo successful.  I prefer not to hope for that in real games.  So I'll stand by my original assertion that the combo is not possible anymore with the addition "for all practical purposes".

Yeah, I didn't think of that one.  So I'll concede that moves it into the realm of possible but like many combo decks slow to set up and unreliable. Even if it is unlikely it is still fun to try.  I'm curious if others are just using draw and stacking to do this or if they use Storehouse and Musicians Chambers.

My angels deck uses primary objective a lot.  At best, I do Cherubim - ET if the opponent's defense in play is weak enough, and I save this for when I have 4 redeemed souls.  It can also be used in mid-game tactically if you know your opponent has a good hand, but as was mentioned before, you're left without much defense. 

Most of the time, it isn't a good idea to include primary objective in a deck because of its riskiness and its limited usefulness.  There are some exceptions, such as my angels deck, which make primary objective appropriate.  For instance, I might not mind discarding my hand as much since my angels will go into chamber.

The main Disadvantage for playing PO is that it's nearly impossible to get cards back from Discard Pile for Silver. Unless u plan on running Mini-silver w/ lots of splash it doesn't work well. + it's to easy to Negate (unless u play it on Mike) overall I don't like it. And literally, I do play main Angels (really really tiny blue splash) and I don't like it.

I personally haven't seen it played, but there is a way to play it if it's in the Isaiah theme Deck.

Quote from: goodfellow on January 23, 2012, 01:41:28 PM

My angels deck uses primary objective a lot.  At best, I do Cherubim - ET if the opponent's defense in play is weak enough, and I save this for when I have 4 redeemed souls.  It can also be used in mid-game tactically if you know your opponent has a good hand, but as was mentioned before, you're left without much defense. 

Most of the time, it isn't a good idea to include primary objective in a deck because of its riskiness and its limited usefulness.  There are some exceptions, such as my angels deck, which make primary objective appropriate.  For instance, I might not mind discarding my hand as much since my angels will go into chamber.

Actually, because of a highly controversial ruling about instead abilities, if you have angels in your hand and chamber out when you use Primary Objective, it doesn't work. Instead abilities (like Chamber) make it as though the first destination never happened. Thus, when Primary Objective discards angels, they go to Chamber, and it's as though they were never discarded, and you didn't discard you hand, so the rest of Primary Objective doesn't work.

Which is a total crock.  If I should be able to discard an empty hand (don't get me started) then I should be able to discard my 7+ card hand even if some are insteaded.

Quote from: Ring Wraith on January 23, 2012, 01:53:03 PM

Quote from: goodfellow on January 23, 2012, 01:41:28 PM

My angels deck uses primary objective a lot.  At best, I do Cherubim - ET if the opponent's defense in play is weak enough, and I save this for when I have 4 redeemed souls.  It can also be used in mid-game tactically if you know your opponent has a good hand, but as was mentioned before, you're left without much defense. 

Most of the time, it isn't a good idea to include primary objective in a deck because of its riskiness and its limited usefulness.  There are some exceptions, such as my angels deck, which make primary objective appropriate.  For instance, I might not mind discarding my hand as much since my angels will go into chamber.

Actually, because of a highly controversial ruling about instead abilities, if you have angels in your hand and chamber out when you use Primary Objective, it doesn't work. Instead abilities (like Chamber) make it as though the first destination never happened. Thus, when Primary Objective discards angels, they go to Chamber, and it's as though they were never discarded, and you didn't discard you hand, so the rest of Primary Objective doesn't work.

Which is a total crock.  If I should be able to discard an empty hand (don't get me started) then I should be able to discard my 7+ card hand even if some are insteaded.

I agree that this should be looked at again, specifically the way instead abilities interact with cards like PO.