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infinite AoCp?
« on: August 10, 2010, 04:12:47 PM »
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Jeroham ---> put Trust on ET ---> withdraw Jeroham with Silver Trumpets

Next turn..

ET + AoCp + Trust

and repeat.

works, right?
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2010, 04:37:58 PM »
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Quote from: juhnkect on August 10, 2010, 04:12:47 PM
Jeroham ---> put Trust on ET ---> withdraw Jeroham with Silver Trumpets

Next turn..

ET + AoCp + Trust

and repeat.

works, right?
works. nice find.
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2010, 05:14:03 PM »
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How can this be infinite?  The Silver Trumpets can only be used twice.
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2010, 05:17:27 PM »
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Works twice (3 times in T2). Although it only needs to work once. There's a better combo to be used with this, though.
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2010, 05:24:55 PM »
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Quote from: Minister Polarius on August 10, 2010, 05:17:27 PM
Works twice (3 times in T2). Although it only needs to work once. There's a better combo to be used with this, though.
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2010, 05:26:00 PM »
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how do you play trust after AoCP?
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2010, 05:46:07 PM »
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Quote from: Minister Polarius on August 10, 2010, 05:17:27 PM
Works twice (3 times in T2). Although it only needs to work once. There's a better combo to be used with this, though.
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Quote from: KoalaKingofFortressAlstad on August 10, 2010, 05:26:00 PM
how do you play trust after AoCP?
It is placed.
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2010, 06:48:24 AM »
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Quote from: Prof Underwood on August 10, 2010, 05:14:03 PM
How can this be infinite?  The Silver Trumpets can only be used twice.

well, I guess it would work as long as you had a way to get Jeroham out of the battle safely. So, use up silver trumpets, then start using teal set asides I guess. Maybe infinite is a little over exaggerated, I just needed a catchy title so people would look lol.
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2010, 09:23:16 AM »
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You can actually use it infinately and it really isn't that good. I've done it before. Majorly underwhelmed.
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2010, 10:14:29 AM »
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OK, I just went to RTS to make a deck using this combo.  I realized that it took 11 cards:

Jehoram the Priest
Ethiopian Treasurer
Trust
Authority of Christ (promo)
The Silver Trumpets
Zerubabel's Temple (to hold the trumpets)
Book of the Law (which has to be on at the same time)
Passover & Unleavened Bread
Pentecost
Feast of Trumpets
First Fruits

In order to pull it off quickly you would probably also need a hero who could search for a tabernacle/temple and a tabernacle/temple artifact.  You probably also need some way to destroy whatever protection fortress your opponent is using.  And even if you have all that, you are still depending on a combo that is relatively easy to destroy.  All it would take would be a Chistian Marytr on either hero, or a Destruction of Nehustan on Book of the Law, and it's over.

Final analysis:  A neat idea, but definitely NOT broken :)
« Last Edit: August 11, 2010, 10:22:33 AM by Prof Underwood »
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2010, 01:34:54 PM »
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To be fair, you can cut down on the size by 1 by using Elishana and Jehoshaphat or make it immune to DoN and CM by using those two and LotS instead of Book of the Law. I don't see why you need P&U at all. The thing about this combo is, ET, AoCP, Z-Temple and the Feasts will already be in most Teal/Purple decks, meaning that to utilize this combo, all you need to add is Elishana, Jehoshaphat, Silver Trumpets, and Trust.

The main weakness to this use of the combo isn't bulkiness, it's losing two turns of attacking just to enable territory clearing and use of AoCP as a battle-winner. In T2 you can have multiple AoCP anyway, and in T1 losing 2 turns of attacking for little benefit is going to lose you the game.
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2010, 01:52:19 PM »
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Actually this can all be done in one turn, every turn.
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2010, 02:07:48 PM »
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Shh.
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2010, 03:08:39 PM »
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Yeah, I can repeat it preblock every turn after 4 turns of setup as well.
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2010, 08:52:26 PM »
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I as well. The combo above really is way too clunky to ever work (and to be fair, so is my combo, but it's less clunky).
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2010, 12:56:46 AM »
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Quote from: Alex_Olijar on August 11, 2010, 08:52:26 PM
I as well. The combo above really is way too clunky to ever work (and to be fair, so is my combo, but it's less clunky).
and my combo isn't? er, wasn't? it worked twice, actually...
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2010, 06:41:17 PM »
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Quote from: Ring Wraith on August 13, 2010, 12:56:46 AM
Quote from: Alex_Olijar on August 11, 2010, 08:52:26 PM
I as well. The combo above really is way too clunky to ever work (and to be fair, so is my combo, but it's less clunky).
and my combo isn't? er, wasn't? it worked twice, actually...

I have been thinking of this in a T1 outlook.
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Re: infinite AoCp?
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2010, 07:05:04 PM »
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Sorry, I am a bit confused, why do you need silver trumpets?  Is that just for your hero to survive?
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