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It would shut down a BoM deck, but it would probably have answers for it.

It does nothing to Michael, Naaman, or other CBN characters because abilities that grant CBN are they themselves CBN.  Abilities that grant CBI and CBP are also CBN.

It does nothing to Michael, Naaman, or other CBN characters because abilities that grant CBN are they themselves CBN.  Abilities that grant CBI and CBP are also CBN.

What are some other meta characters that this would shut down?

HoH stops TSA, Moses and CotH as well as buffing Trembling Demon.

I haven't seen any of those being used seriously (I mean, I used Saph, but I didn't see any others).

Keep in mind that HoH is a prevent so if Moses is already in territory it would not negate him (until he tried to enter battle at which point he would then be prevented).

The different versions of HoH are worded differently.  The one quoted above says "...are Negated."  Why wouldn't activating that version of HoH be an instantaneous Negate as well as an ongoing Prevent?

I haven't seen any of those being used seriously (I mean, I used Saph, but I didn't see any others).

Saph was a crucial piece of the best Philistine defenses - a recurrable big body that prevents only an opponent's enhancement each time he blocks.  I know Saph was in Noah W's and Chris Egley's decks, and having played against both those decks on Lackey several times, they use Saph more than anyone except for maybe Goliath (it would depend on the offense they're facing).  Tyler Stevens made a comment in his T2 review that Saph single-handedly shut down Jordan's offense in their T2 game.

Ishmaiah is common in I Samuel/Throne decks, but his negate usually doesn't negate very much. 

I don't doubt it, I just don't care about T2 and didn't see anyone else running Phillies (except the Dunlap playgroup who was way ahead of the curve) in my experience. Good to know there are other Saph fans out there!

Of course, now I wouldn't run Saph because Goliath gets the job done just as better and if I want more black in the defense I'll merge it with Canaanites.