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Battle Cry questions
« on: February 16, 2017, 04:22:20 AM »
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1) Say my one Hero in battle is being specifically (and only) targeted for removal (say, discard) during a rescue attempt, triggering Special Initiative, by an ability that isn't CBI/CBN (like Tenants Kill the Son). Can I play Battle Cry to add a Hero to battle, even if that Hero isn't someone like Ahimelek the Hittite who will remove a blocking EC, in order to still have a Hero in battle and continue fighting after my first one is discarded?

2) What if I used Battle Cry to band in a CTB Hero like Asahel - would all of the blocking ECs be removed and replaced by the EC I chose to block, even in the midst of the special initiative?

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« Last Edit: February 16, 2017, 04:24:38 AM by jesse »
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Re: Battle Cry questions
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2017, 08:08:59 AM »
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1. Yes.  Special initiative grants you the ability to interrupt or negate the ability removing you - it doesn't require that the removing card remain interrupted or negated.  With SI, you can even play Reach of Desperation to draw 3 and die.

2. Yes.
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Re: Battle Cry questions
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2017, 10:14:53 AM »
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Awesome - thank you!
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Re: Battle Cry questions
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2017, 10:20:34 AM »
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1. Yes.  Special initiative grants you the ability to interrupt or negate the ability removing you - it doesn't require that the removing card remain interrupted or negated.  With SI, you can even play Reach of Desperation to draw 3 and die.

2. Yes.

Wait... SI works now if only 1 of multiple heroes is being removed?
That and I'm assuming your meaning if you just go "Draw 3" and not play an Enhancement.
They seem pretty lame as fighters maybe we should challenge them to a dance off or a redemption game

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Re: Battle Cry questions
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2017, 10:50:22 AM »
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No, in jesse's scenario SI occurs when the lone hero is being removed from battle with single target removal.  Battle Cry can interrupt that removal and add a character to battle.  Once it resolves, the interrupted ability will complete and remove the original hero, but now there's another hero and the battle continues with normal initiative rules.

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Re: Battle Cry questions
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2017, 11:15:36 AM »
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I know all that, but from what I could tell from the scenario it seemed like he was saying that he had multiple heroes in battle and 1 was being discarded.
They seem pretty lame as fighters maybe we should challenge them to a dance off or a redemption game

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Re: Battle Cry questions
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2017, 12:16:06 PM »
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but from what I could tell from the scenario it seemed like he was saying that he had multiple heroes in battle and 1 was being discarded.
1) Say my one Hero in battle is being specifically (and only) targeted for removal
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Re: Battle Cry questions
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2017, 12:38:24 PM »
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It sounded that way to me as well. I think he went back and edit it if you look it was edited today.

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Re: Battle Cry questions
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2017, 12:50:19 PM »
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I mean I don't want to get into a semantics debate, because it's beside the point, but the edit was at 3:24am which was before anyone actually replied to the thread.

Sufficed to say, the scenario involved a single hero getting removed which does, as jmhartz confirmed, grant special initiative. You can, in that situation, use Battle Cry to band someone in to continue the battle.

 


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