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Re: Any good ec recursion besides Philistines & Sadducees?
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2010, 02:06:58 PM »
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It doesn't have to say "and its contents" since placed cards follow the host. DoU, Abraham's Descendant, Nathan banded in or used in a side-battle, Threatened Lives, ANB, and probably other cards can be used with Golgotha to get EE's and Curses back.

can you give me an example?

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Re: Any good ec recursion besides Philistines & Sadducees?
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2010, 02:09:00 PM »
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DoU, Abraham's Descendant, Nathan banded in or used in a side-battle, Threatened Lives, ANB, and probably other cards can be used with Golgotha to get EE's and Curses back.
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: Any good ec recursion besides Philistines & Sadducees?
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2010, 02:12:08 PM »
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DoU, Abraham's Descendant, Nathan banded in or used in a side-battle, Threatened Lives, ANB, and probably other cards can be used with Golgotha to get EE's and Curses back.

you mean like with Nathan shuffling away a 1/2 used curse?  what about with Golgotha, how would you get that enhancement if it's placed on Golgotha and then returned to the location it came from at end of turn?

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Re: Any good ec recursion besides Philistines & Sadducees?
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2010, 02:16:06 PM »
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It's not.
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Re: Any good ec recursion besides Philistines & Sadducees?
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2010, 02:17:15 PM »
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RA with Nathan in territory to begin battle phase.  Search discard pile for EE or Curse, and place it on Golgatha.  Band in Nathan (or side battle) to activate his SA, shuffling the card placed on Golgatha.
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Re: Any good ec recursion besides Philistines & Sadducees?
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2010, 02:18:17 PM »
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RA with Nathan in territory to begin battle phase.  Search discard pile for EE or Curse, and place it on Golgatha.  Band in Nathan (or side battle) to activate his SA, shuffling the card placed on Golgatha.

this makes more sense to me.

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Re: Any good ec recursion besides Philistines & Sadducees?
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2010, 02:20:49 PM »
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thank you one again  ;D

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Re: Any good ec recursion besides Philistines & Sadducees?
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2010, 02:21:02 PM »
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It's the same with any of the other examples I listed.
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Re: Any good ec recursion besides Philistines & Sadducees?
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2010, 02:24:59 PM »
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thank you one again  ;D
No problem.  Sometimes these things just need to be explained out.
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Re: Any good ec recursion besides Philistines & Sadducees?
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2010, 06:54:47 PM »
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RA with Nathan in territory to begin battle phase.  Search discard pile for EE or Curse, and place it on Golgatha.  Band in Nathan (or side battle) to activate his SA, shuffling the card placed on Golgatha.
You said rescue with Nathan and then later said band him in. What do you mean? Could someone argue that Nathan's ability activates before you could use Golgotha's ability?

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Re: Any good ec recursion besides Philistines & Sadducees?
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2010, 06:58:58 PM »
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RA, whilst Nathan in your territory, to begin battle phase.  Search discard pile for EE or Curse, and place it on Golgatha.  Band in Nathan (or side battle) to activate his SA, shuffling the card placed on Golgatha.

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Re: Any good ec recursion besides Philistines & Sadducees?
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2010, 07:33:23 PM »
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Here's a question, fortresses play to your territory unless stated otherwise; if you have Tartaros in play with some demons in there and you block with Elymas (apostles) - can you discard one of your demons in Tartaros to use to Elymas' ability to discard a hero in your opponents' territories and return that demon to Tartaros because of it's special ability?

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Re: Any good ec recursion besides Philistines & Sadducees?
« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2010, 09:17:10 PM »
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RA with Nathan in territory to begin battle phase.  Search discard pile for EE or Curse, and place it on Golgatha.  Band in Nathan (or side battle) to activate his SA, shuffling the card placed on Golgatha.
You said rescue with Nathan and then later said band him in. What do you mean? Could someone argue that Nathan's ability activates before you could use Golgotha's ability?

It does, as the battle phase starts with his entering, and Golgatha doesn't interrupt.
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Re: Any good ec recursion besides Philistines & Sadducees?
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2010, 02:12:35 AM »
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RA with Nathan in territory to begin battle phase.  Search discard pile for EE or Curse, and place it on Golgatha.  Band in Nathan (or side battle) to activate his SA, shuffling the card placed on Golgatha.
Gotta read carefully when prepositions are involved. Actually, considering the third sentence, that shouldn't have been misread.

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Here's a question, fortresses play to your territory unless stated otherwise; if you have Tartaros in play with some demons in there and you block with Elymas (apostles) - can you discard one of your demons in Tartaros to use to Elymas' ability to discard a hero in your opponents' territories and return that demon to Tartaros because of it's special ability?
No, for two reasons. First, Tartaros has been errata'd to go to set-aside. Second, I believe it's an instead ability even though it doesn't have instead wording, and the new ruling on insteading costs means you don't get the benefit.
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: Any good ec recursion besides Philistines & Sadducees?
« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2010, 10:26:40 AM »
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RA, whilst Nathan in your territory, to begin battle phase.  Search discard pile for EE or Curse, and place it on Golgatha.  Band in Nathan (or side battle) to activate his SA, shuffling the card placed on Golgatha.

+1 for using whilst.

RA with Nathan in territory to begin battle phase.  Search discard pile for EE or Curse, and place it on Golgatha.  Band in Nathan (or side battle) to activate his SA, shuffling the card placed on Golgatha.
Gotta read carefully when prepositions are involved. Actually, considering the third sentence, that shouldn't have been misread.

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Here's a question, fortresses play to your territory unless stated otherwise; if you have Tartaros in play with some demons in there and you block with Elymas (apostles) - can you discard one of your demons in Tartaros to use to Elymas' ability to discard a hero in your opponents' territories and return that demon to Tartaros because of it's special ability?
No, for two reasons. First, Tartaros has been errata'd to go to set-aside. Second, I believe it's an instead ability even though it doesn't have instead wording, and the new ruling on insteading costs means you don't get the benefit.

Polarius is correct on all counts.
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