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Quote from: BubbleBoy on April 05, 2010, 02:05:38 PMQuote from: Da Muzik Maker on April 05, 2010, 01:58:39 PMOH! no, philistines can get rid of temples too with their land dispute.IF they don't have a site. Yes, but thats why you play land pruchase... recure it and get it again and play again. cause i have never seen a priest deck containing site's. exept site access sites, which is why you get land purchase out twice.
Quote from: Da Muzik Maker on April 05, 2010, 01:58:39 PMOH! no, philistines can get rid of temples too with their land dispute.IF they don't have a site.
OH! no, philistines can get rid of temples too with their land dispute.
Quote from: Da Muzik Maker on April 05, 2010, 02:13:12 PMQuote from: BubbleBoy on April 05, 2010, 02:05:38 PMQuote from: Da Muzik Maker on April 05, 2010, 01:58:39 PMOH! no, philistines can get rid of temples too with their land dispute.IF they don't have a site. Yes, but thats why you play land pruchase... recure it and get it again and play again. cause i have never seen a priest deck containing site's. exept site access sites, which is why you get land purchase out twice.You've never played me apparently
IF they don't have a site. Babs have both Axe and Desecrate the Temple, each of which can get rid of ZTemple no matter what. Brown has Crucify Him also...
they do, but in an FBTN battle between Phineas or Josh against a Philistine, Phineas/Josh will probably win.oh, and I think Brown is best equipped...
I realize what Philli priest does, but what will that accomplish? I can still stop Wrath with a number of things.
Phineas can still have such Zeal that no Fear can phase him!
also, my comment was directed to how this war was started, with Da Muzik Maker's comment.
as for CM, it's a fact of life, like all dominants
Quote from: Ring Wraith on April 05, 2010, 02:28:58 PMPhineas can still have such Zeal that no Fear can phase him!also, my comment was directed to how this war was started, with Da Muzik Maker's comment. as for CM, it's a fact of life, like all dominants. but there's always Chariot.And again, crucify him.And i wouldn't be so estatic with phineas, he is high numbers, all you do is play FBTN enh befor. plus, if you used a priets offence, i would Save CM.
Phineas can still have such Zeal that no Fear can phase him!also, my comment was directed to how this war was started, with Da Muzik Maker's comment. as for CM, it's a fact of life, like all dominants. but there's always Chariot.
QuotePhineas can still have such Zeal that no Fear can phase him!Very true but If I bring Fear first I believe you can't interrupt it.
Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on April 05, 2010, 02:47:56 PMQuote from: Da Muzik Maker on April 05, 2010, 02:37:06 PMQuote from: Ring Wraith on April 05, 2010, 02:28:58 PMPhineas can still have such Zeal that no Fear can phase him!also, my comment was directed to how this war was started, with Da Muzik Maker's comment. as for CM, it's a fact of life, like all dominants. but there's always Chariot.And again, crucify him.And i wouldn't be so estatic with phineas, he is high numbers, all you do is play FBTN enh befor. plus, if you used a priets offence, i would Save CM.Play FBTN before vs phinehas = Zeal'd.This is also where philistine garrison come in, and phineas is ignored, so you can't hurt him. nor would you have initative.
Quote from: Da Muzik Maker on April 05, 2010, 02:37:06 PMQuote from: Ring Wraith on April 05, 2010, 02:28:58 PMPhineas can still have such Zeal that no Fear can phase him!also, my comment was directed to how this war was started, with Da Muzik Maker's comment. as for CM, it's a fact of life, like all dominants. but there's always Chariot.And again, crucify him.And i wouldn't be so estatic with phineas, he is high numbers, all you do is play FBTN enh befor. plus, if you used a priets offence, i would Save CM.Play FBTN before vs phinehas = Zeal'd.
Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on April 05, 2010, 03:04:09 PMPretty much teals breakdown of power is thisProtectionDecent banding/high numbersCBN battle winners, one with ITBPowerful battle winners / NegatesWays to recur all of the above.If you where smart, you wouldn't band against giants. cause they could do so much to your territory without you able to do a thing. like, land dispute, land purchase, recuring land purchase, and when they are all done, you play image of jealousy on the hero who banded. ouch.
Pretty much teals breakdown of power is thisProtectionDecent banding/high numbersCBN battle winners, one with ITBPowerful battle winners / NegatesWays to recur all of the above.
Quote from: Ring Wraith on April 05, 2010, 03:09:57 PMDa Muzik Maker, Zeal interrupts the immunity.their recursion methods are weak though. it's recursion with placing. which means their two best enhancements are out of it. (Zeal and Burning Incense...) Zeal could be used, but Jehoida's Strength and Holy Unto the Lord are the only definite good ones to recur.Quote from: Da Muzik Maker on April 05, 2010, 03:07:43 PMQuote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on April 05, 2010, 03:04:09 PMPretty much teals breakdown of power is thisProtectionDecent banding/high numbersCBN battle winners, one with ITBPowerful battle winners / NegatesWays to recur all of the above.If you where smart, you wouldn't band against giants. cause they could do so much to your territory without you able to do a thing. like, land dispute, land purchase, recuring land purchase, and when they are all done, you play image of jealousy on the hero who banded. ouch.Brown isn't giants. and Land Purchase does NOTHING to the territory. and Land Dispute and IoJ you don't need to play in battle. so far no card mention does anything different.true...... i forgot about the territory class... as far as zeal, i would just play bringing fear. But you could come in with philistine armor bearer, play bringing fear, and then search for someone with high numbers. but can you use philistine armour bearer after you plan an enhancment? if not, then his ability is pretty useless, and i am talking about the part that says "enhancments stay in battle".
Da Muzik Maker, Zeal interrupts the immunity.their recursion methods are weak though. it's recursion with placing. which means their two best enhancements are out of it. (Zeal and Burning Incense...) Zeal could be used, but Jehoida's Strength and Holy Unto the Lord are the only definite good ones to recur.Quote from: Da Muzik Maker on April 05, 2010, 03:07:43 PMQuote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on April 05, 2010, 03:04:09 PMPretty much teals breakdown of power is thisProtectionDecent banding/high numbersCBN battle winners, one with ITBPowerful battle winners / NegatesWays to recur all of the above.If you where smart, you wouldn't band against giants. cause they could do so much to your territory without you able to do a thing. like, land dispute, land purchase, recuring land purchase, and when they are all done, you play image of jealousy on the hero who banded. ouch.Brown isn't giants. and Land Purchase does NOTHING to the territory. and Land Dispute and IoJ you don't need to play in battle. so far no card mention does anything different.
Zeal is trying to interrupt it. Zeal is trying to discard you unnegateably.
:doh:Zeal is an interrupt, discard, CBN. I suggest you look up cards before you give a counter to them. Bringing Fear would do nothing to Zeal.and Philli armor Bearer is an instant ability. Warrior Class Enhancements would stay. or if he was Lurking'd into battle.
If you band to him or he has a weapon his ability is VERY useful. Also again Zeal on phin is cbn, it doesn't matter if your negate is cbn 8 ways till tuesday, The d/c is the part hitting you, not the negate
QuoteZeal is trying to interrupt it. Zeal is trying to discard you unnegateably.Quote:doh:Zeal is an interrupt, discard, CBN. I suggest you look up cards before you give a counter to them. Bringing Fear would do nothing to Zeal.and Philli armor Bearer is an instant ability. Warrior Class Enhancements would stay. or if he was Lurking'd into battle.QuoteIf you band to him or he has a weapon his ability is VERY useful. Also again Zeal on phin is cbn, it doesn't matter if your negate is cbn 8 ways till tuesday, The d/c is the part hitting you, not the negateIf you can't interrupt, then you can't discard if you are already dying? If I block with a 2/2 Fallen Warrior, Bring Fear, Overwhelmed by Philli. You cannot use Zeal to save yourself because you cannot interrupt bringing fear. My Cannot be Negated hit first and is Preventing your CBN. Cannot be negated means cannot be negated. You cannot use Zeal to stop Bringing Fear.
you can't prevent a CBN. Negate=Interrupt + Prevent. thus Cannot be Negated=Cannot be Interrupted or Prevented. as far as Overwhelmed by Philli goes, if I have Covenant of Phineas up, it won't work.
Actually, Negate ≠ interrupt + prevent
I believe it was ruled that when 2 CBN cards collide the first played takes precedence. your would be indirectly negating my Bringing Fear, so you cannot interrupt a cannot be interrupted prevent.
Bringing fear also cannot be interrupted, but if the hero has initiative, that doesn't even matter. Do you understand now?
Quote from: Ring Wraith on April 05, 2010, 03:30:07 PMyou can't prevent a CBN. Negate=Interrupt + Prevent. thus Cannot be Negated=Cannot be Interrupted or Prevented. as far as Overwhelmed by Philli goes, if I have Covenant of Phineas up, it won't work.Actually, Negate ≠ interrupt + prevent now, but I still agree with the rest of this.
Quote from: Ring Wraith on April 05, 2010, 03:30:07 PMQuote from: Korunks on April 05, 2010, 03:26:47 PMQuoteZeal is trying to interrupt it. Zeal is trying to discard you unnegateably.Quote:doh:Zeal is an interrupt, discard, CBN. I suggest you look up cards before you give a counter to them. Bringing Fear would do nothing to Zeal.and Philli armor Bearer is an instant ability. Warrior Class Enhancements would stay. or if he was Lurking'd into battle.QuoteIf you band to him or he has a weapon his ability is VERY useful. Also again Zeal on phin is cbn, it doesn't matter if your negate is cbn 8 ways till tuesday, The d/c is the part hitting you, not the negateIf you can't interrupt, then you can't discard if you are already dying? If I block with a 2/2 Fallen Warrior, Bring Fear, Overwhelmed by Philli. You cannot use Zeal to save yourself because you cannot interrupt bringing fear. My Cannot be Negated hit first and is Preventing your CBN. Cannot be negated means cannot be negated. You cannot use Zeal to stop Bringing Fear.you can't prevent a CBN. Negate=Interrupt + Prevent. thus Cannot be Negated=Cannot be Interrupted or Prevented. as far as Overwhelmed by Philli goes, if I have Covenant of Phineas up, it won't work.And again, DoN.
Quote from: Korunks on April 05, 2010, 03:26:47 PMQuoteZeal is trying to interrupt it. Zeal is trying to discard you unnegateably.Quote:doh:Zeal is an interrupt, discard, CBN. I suggest you look up cards before you give a counter to them. Bringing Fear would do nothing to Zeal.and Philli armor Bearer is an instant ability. Warrior Class Enhancements would stay. or if he was Lurking'd into battle.QuoteIf you band to him or he has a weapon his ability is VERY useful. Also again Zeal on phin is cbn, it doesn't matter if your negate is cbn 8 ways till tuesday, The d/c is the part hitting you, not the negateIf you can't interrupt, then you can't discard if you are already dying? If I block with a 2/2 Fallen Warrior, Bring Fear, Overwhelmed by Philli. You cannot use Zeal to save yourself because you cannot interrupt bringing fear. My Cannot be Negated hit first and is Preventing your CBN. Cannot be negated means cannot be negated. You cannot use Zeal to stop Bringing Fear.you can't prevent a CBN. Negate=Interrupt + Prevent. thus Cannot be Negated=Cannot be Interrupted or Prevented. as far as Overwhelmed by Philli goes, if I have Covenant of Phineas up, it won't work.
it's just going through it with a CBN discard.
Lol, a cannot be interupted if used by phineas VS a negate, well, negate is both, so negate winns!
then whatever fort is holding lampy is now negated cause my brown just used image of jealousy.
And this stinks for priests cause they don't have alot of negates.
Quoteit's just going through it with a CBN discard.But you are losing battle by removal you can only stop that with an Interrupt, which you can not play because of Bringing Fear, if you cannot interrupt the discard ability you are not there to play Zeal for the Lord, because you are already dead. the Rulebook says when you are losing by removal you can only negate or interrupt. Since you can do neither it does nothing.
Quote from: Ring Wraith on April 05, 2010, 04:10:22 PMQuote from: Da Muzik Maker on April 05, 2010, 03:52:01 PMLol, a cannot be interupted if used by phineas VS a negate, well, negate is both, so negate winns!Zeal is CBN, not just CBI.Quotethen whatever fort is holding lampy is now negated cause my brown just used image of jealousy.too bad it's not your turn so you cannot play IoJ.Quote from: Da Muzik Maker on April 05, 2010, 03:58:29 PMAnd this stinks for priests cause they don't have alot of negates. Quote3 interrupts. that's pretty good.Interupts? ok, that is good, but no negates. giants have more Negates then preists have interupts.And as far as IoJ goes, you can play territory class enh anytime right? plus, even if i couldn't, now i know, so now i'm going to play it before i enter battle. there, now you can't hold it, (i know i'm sounding rude, but i don't mean to, i'm thinking of new ways to get around stuff, and this topic has turned into a Da Muzik Maker is learning session, thanks guys) and now i can DoN cov of phineas.
Quote from: Da Muzik Maker on April 05, 2010, 03:52:01 PMLol, a cannot be interupted if used by phineas VS a negate, well, negate is both, so negate winns!Zeal is CBN, not just CBI.Quotethen whatever fort is holding lampy is now negated cause my brown just used image of jealousy.too bad it's not your turn so you cannot play IoJ.Quote from: Da Muzik Maker on April 05, 2010, 03:58:29 PMAnd this stinks for priests cause they don't have alot of negates. Quote3 interrupts. that's pretty good.
And this stinks for priests cause they don't have alot of negates. Quote3 interrupts. that's pretty good.
3 interrupts. that's pretty good.
Giants have 4 negates by my count. Foolish Advice, Devourer, Bringing Fear, and one that I'm missing (pretty sure, haha)...
Quote from: Ring Wraith on April 05, 2010, 06:55:03 PMGiants have 4 negates by my count. Foolish Advice, Devourer, Bringing Fear, and one that I'm missing (pretty sure, haha)...Denying Blame.
