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Open Forum => Off-Topic => Sports => Topic started by: SomeKittens on December 26, 2011, 06:27:38 PM
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According to a exhaustively researched (read: not at all) study by myself, I have determined who will play (and win) the Superbowl. Using the transitive property, I have Green Bay winning in a showdown against the Saints.
/Yeah, league structure and all that. The program isn't done yet.
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Lol they can't even play each other in the super bowl and if they did with the way the Packers have been playing defense New Orleans would DESTROY them.
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Yeah, the Packers are slated to win, with the Saints being a close second, which almost certainly means the Patriots will win.
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This is based in statistics, not reality.
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This is based in statistics, not reality.
QFT
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Now including AFC/NFC, it'll be Pittsburgh Steelers vs Green Bay, with advantage GB. I'll get to the playoffs tomorrow.
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Now including AFC/NFC, it'll be Pittsburgh Steelers vs Green Bay, with advantage GB. I'll get to the playoffs tomorrow.
Ahem... My ravens absolutely DESTROYED the Steelers this season... not to mention the rest of our division.
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I managed to predict 8 of 15 games correctly so far. I won't be betting the rent money just yet.
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Giants are going to win
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Now including AFC/NFC, it'll be Pittsburgh Steelers vs Green Bay, with advantage GB. I'll get to the playoffs tomorrow.
Ahem... My ravens absolutely DESTROYED the Steelers this season... not to mention the rest of our division.
Not just that, but we are perfect at home, and Pittsburgh would have to come here
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You guys seem to be assuming that under his system the Ravens played the Steelers at all. What if the Pats beat the Ravens who them lost to the Steelers?
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You guys seem to be assuming that under his system the Ravens played the Steelers at all. What if the Pats beat the Ravens who them lost to the Steelers?
http://www.nfl.com/playoffs/playoff-picture (http://www.nfl.com/playoffs/playoff-picture)
Ravens will play either the steelers or broncos first, then the winner of the other 3 teams.
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In his system was the key part. this was made last week before the playoff seeding was set.
And actually assuming the Texans win no they won't. highest seed (Patriots) plays lowest remaining seed which would be steelers unless the Bengals pull out an upset.
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AFC:
Wild card round:
CIN < HOU
PIT > DEN
Divisional:
HOU < BAL
NE < PIT
BAL > PIT
Baltimore Ravens win AFC
NFC:
Wild card round:
NO > DET
NYG < ATL
NO < SF
GB > ATL
SF ? GB
49ers and Packers are tied in my program, but I'll give it to the Packers because they have a better record.
Super Bowl:
GB > BAL
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Looks good to me as far as seeding goes.
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That looks good except for the last line.
replace the > with < and you're good.
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GB to SD to BAL ( two jumps )
BAL to PIT to KC to GB ( three jumps )
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GB to SD to BAL ( two jumps )
BAL to PIT to KC to GB ( three jumps )
With this team beat that team which beat that team logic now in the mix, I feel compelled to post this
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/A-demonstration-of-NFL-parity-in-one-handy-circ?urn=nfl-288589
I just wonder if a similar circle could be made for this year.
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It's a program and it's far from perfect this was it's first week....
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...with the way the Packers have been playing defense New Orleans would DESTROY them.
On average Green Bay scores a little less than point more per game on offense than New Orleans does and gives up a little more than a point more on defense than New Orleans. Given that the Saints defense is not a whole lot better than Green Bay's I am not sure how that equates to New Orleans *destroying* the Packers. (Especially since the Saints' are 5-3 outside of their dome and the game will be played at Lambeau.)
A GB/NO game strikes me as akin to two speed decks going at each other. Whoever can make the most stops will win the game, and for that I will take the Packers +24 turnover number and Rodgers 6 picks to the -3 New Orleans has with Brees giving up 14 interceptions.
I also am quite happy that New Orleans will be the ones playing San Francisco in San Francisco, because neither the Saints nor the Packers have faced a defense anywhere near as good as the one the 49ers put on the field.
KittenI managed to predict 8 of 15 games correctly so far. I won't be betting the rent money just yet.
On the other hand, your program successfully predicted the teams in the play-offs and their seeding, so that is something. ;)
Seriously though, to give you some points of comparison... Players in human pools (ESPN/CBS Sports) tend to select winners at about a 63% correct rate. If you can get that to 68% you will be in the top 0.5% of all players. This is for straight up pick-em. If you are betting against the point spread average people are at 50% (that's how point spreads are determined). Professional gamblers are at 53-54%.
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If there were any justice in the NFL, the Pack would lose to the Falcons in OT in the NFC championship because Crosby missed a FG that could have put it out of reach. But alas, there is no justice.
Go Niners. I despise every other team in the NFC playoffs (except the Giants, but lol).
Also, go Ravens. Though, I kind of feel like a rematch between the Niners and Ravens would be like the LSU/Alabama rematch in the NCAA.
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The difference being that we have a playoff system in the NFL, the reason that it's so annoying 'Bama is getting a rematch is that none of the other top 5 teams are being given a chance to show they deserve it. If there was a playoff system and both teams made it to the title game then they deserve to face each other but Alabama had their chance and screwed it up, someone else should get a shot now.
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The difference being that we have a playoff system in the NFL, the reason that it's so annoying 'Bama is getting a rematch is that none of the other top 5 teams are being given a chance to show they deserve it. If there was a playoff system and both teams made it to the title game then they deserve to face each other but Alabama had their chance and screwed it up, someone else should get a shot now.
I agree with that, my point was that the regular season games were dominated by defense (though 16-6 isn't as bad as 9-6). I don't know if the best defensive team in the NFC has ever faced the best defensive team in the AFC in the Super Bowl before. Either way, a Super Bowl with less than 20 points scored would be an oddity in today's NFL, just as a NCAA championship with less than 20 points scored would be strange. Yet both are entirely possible.
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The difference being that we have a playoff system in the NFL, the reason that it's so annoying 'Bama is getting a rematch is that none of the other top 5 teams are being given a chance to show they deserve it. If there was a playoff system and both teams made it to the title game then they deserve to face each other but Alabama had their chance and screwed it up, someone else should get a shot now.
I agree with that, my point was that the regular season games were dominated by defense (though 16-6 isn't as bad as 9-6). I don't know if the best defensive team in the NFC has ever faced the best defensive team in the AFC in the Super Bowl before. Either way, a Super Bowl with less than 20 points scored would be an oddity in today's NFL, just as a NCAA championship with less than 20 points scored would be strange. Yet both are entirely possible.
Pittsburgh and Houston resent that belief that the Ravens are the best defense.
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If there were any justice in the NFL, the Pack would lose to the Falcons in OT in the NFC championship because Crosby missed a FG that could have put it out of reach.
Given Green Bay's defensive woes, if Crosby is attempting a field goal the Packers have probably already lost.
Go Niners. I despise every other team in the NFC playoffs (except the Giants, but lol).
If New Orleans defeats Detroit (likely), we will get to see the NFL's second ranked scoring offense (Saints) versus the second ranked scoring defense (49ers). The only drawback is that the game will be at 3:30 pm on the 14th, which means we will have to miss your tournament to watch the game.
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we will have to miss your tournament to watch the game.
One word: Multitasking!
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If there were any justice in the NFL, the Pack would lose to the Falcons in OT in the NFC championship because Crosby missed a FG that could have put it out of reach.
Given Green Bay's defensive woes, if Crosby is attempting a field goal the Packers have probably already lost.
Go Niners. I despise every other team in the NFC playoffs (except the Giants, but lol).
If New Orleans defeats Detroit (likely), we will get to see the NFL's second ranked scoring offense (Saints) versus the second ranked scoring defense (49ers). The only drawback is that the game will be at 3:30 pm on the 14th, which means we will have to miss your tournament to watch the game.
Oh snap. I guess I have to figure out how to reserve a TV. It will be quite the change from having RLKs crowding around the TV watching Angel Wars between rounds to having all of us older guys crowding around the TV watching the game.
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we will have to miss your tournament to watch the game.
One word: Multitasking!
That's easy enough to do in a pass-wacky game. Appreciating good defense requires concentration. ;)
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I'm 2-1 in wild card. I'm rooting for the Broncos, but I've got the Steelers winning. Thoughts?
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Ive got Steelers winning but facing the Giants.
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Ive got Steelers winning but facing the Giants.
I am 100% certain you will not be correct.
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We will see..We will see....
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We will see..We will see....
Except that the Steelers have already lost
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Ohh did not see that game. Correction Giants win vs Huston
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Saints Vs. Pats
Saints win in a shoot out. Why you ask?
Cause Drew Breeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees that's why!
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Needs more Tebow.
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If Tebow beats the Pats I will go to Church for a month.
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Anyone who doesn't have the Saints or Green Bay in the Super Bowl is blatantly trolling.
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I wouldn't say that, these are almost the circumstances as when the Giants upset the Pats.
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If Tebow beats the Pats I will go to Church for a month.
You probably just guranteed Tebow a win. I'm glad God has a sense of humor.
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If Tebow beats the Pats I will go to Church for a month.
You probably just guranteed Tebow a win. I'm glad God has a sense of humor.
I made a similar bet when they played the Chiefs. And we know how that ended.
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If Tebow beats the Pats I will go to Church for a month.
You probably just guranteed Tebow a win. I'm glad God has a sense of humor.
Of course, God doesn't like the Pats any more than anyone else does.
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Brady Tebowed before it was cool
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I just wanted to voice my support for my Ravens that I do on the forums at least twice a year, during the preseason and during the postseason. Notice what I did there - how I can only lobby for my Redskins during the preseason. ;)
Kirk
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Tim Tebow is going to win no matter ... He has God on his side.
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Tim Tebow is going to win no matter ... He has God on his side.
He has proven my algorithm wrong twice so far.
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Tim Tebow is going to win no matter ... He has God on his side.
What happens if the other team has a Christian too? Then God has to decide who He loves more?
http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/photos/25-most-terrific-tebowing-pics
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Peace and blessings.
Moving forward, if anyone else wants to continue posting in this thread, please make sure that they are done with prudence and consideration for a greater number of younger board members.
If the following does 'offend' you at the moment, take a break from the boards for a few days, recollect yourself, then return:
WWJD?
Let this always be our standard.
A joyous football Sunday to all.
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Brady Tebowed before it was cool
Orel Hershiser "tebowed" before you were born.
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Saints already bit the dust, Green Bay is on it's way down. Pwnt.
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Maybe SK should just start flipping coins ;D
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Maybe SK should just start flipping coins ;D
So all that work for nothing.. Guess I shouldn't have bet the rent money.
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It'll be the Ravens vs 49ers in the Super Bowl. Lest I hope so.
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It'll be the Ravens vs 49ers in the Super Bowl. Lest I hope so.
I'd be up for Harbaugh Bowl part 2. But as much as I like the Ravens, I don't see them beating the Pats. I think Brady will probably need to get a ring sized for his pinky. But I also have a hard time betting against the G-men. In the NFL, when you're on a roll, you're on a roll. My prediction from this point is a rematch of the 2008 SB with the Pats able to exact their revenge on the Giants, but it will probably be close.
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Lol at the original topic. Interesting playoff season...
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Go Niners. I despise every other team in the NFC playoffs (except the Giants, but lol).
Mmmm, my foot is tasty.
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Go Niners. I despise every other team in the NFC playoffs (except the Giants, but lol).
Mmmm, my foot is tasty.
I decided to root for whoever my program said would win. BAD IDEA IN NY.