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Quote from: jbeers285 on February 03, 2014, 01:08:21 AM

I've havnt said much about Sherman till now but

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6. He drew all the attention after the 49er/Sea Hawk NFC championship game. If it weren't for Sherman's post-game championship rant, imagine what people would have been saying about Colin Kaepernick and choking. Taking the heat on himself was a brilliant way to shield his fellow players from criticism. That kind of self-sacrifice would make him a heckuva guy.

I think this is as likely* an explanation for Sherman's actions as the possibility that he was playing mental jujitsu to help his team in the Super Bowl.


*Meaning not likely at all, imo.

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Quote from: jbeers285 on February 03, 2014, 09:42:36 AM

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on February 03, 2014, 08:04:31 AM

Quote from: jbeers285 on February 03, 2014, 01:08:21 AM

I've havnt said much about Sherman till now but

[5 things deleted...]

6. He drew all the attention after the 49er/Sea Hawk NFC championship game. If it weren't for Sherman's post-game championship rant, imagine what people would have been saying about Colin Kaepernick and choking. Taking the heat on himself was a brilliant way to shield his fellow players from criticism. That kind of self-sacrifice would make him a heckuva guy.

I think this is as likely* an explanation for Sherman's actions as the possibility that he was playing mental jujitsu to help his team in the Super Bowl.


*Meaning not likely at all, imo.

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Just to clarify... Are you claiming that graduating from Stanford means Sherman *couldn't* have acted the way he did because he didn't want Colin Kaepernick to go through the media buzzsaw? Or are you implying a Stanford grad can't be "heckuva a guy?"

I'm saying it supports my argument while your idea of setting up a strawman to tear down is not a good debate tactic and it doesn't actually do anything to refute, add to or detract from anything I previously stated.

I'm saying it supports my argument while your idea of setting up a strawman to tear down is not a good debate tactic and it doesn't actually do anything to refute, add to or detract from anything I previously stated.

Hahahahahaha... It does nothing to refute what you said, because there is absolutely nothing to refute. You made a few claims (specifically the ones about him trying to help his team that I referred to by the mental jujitsu remark) that you have absolutely zero evidence for.

If you are going to attempt to justify Sherman's actions by providing unsupported motivations, you should add my #6 as to your list. I have exactly as much support for my claim as you have for your #4 and #5 (none). Moreover, my #6 makes him look like a totally righteous dude helping out others and all.

Quote from: jbeers285 on February 03, 2014, 01:52:45 PM

I'm saying it supports my argument while your idea of setting up a strawman to tear down is not a good debate tactic and it doesn't actually do anything to refute, add to or detract from anything I previously stated.

Hahahahahaha... It does nothing to refute what you said, because there is absolutely nothing to refute. You made a few claims (specifically the ones about him trying to help his team that I referred to by the mental jujitsu remark) that you have absolutely zero evidence for.

If you are going to attempt to justify Sherman's actions by providing unsupported motivations, you should add my #6 as to your list. I have exactly as much support for my claim as you have for your #4 and #5 (none). Moreover, my #6 makes him look like a totally righteous dude helping out others and all.

Your right I went back and looked at it and the only thin the media talked about the last 2 weeks is how young Seahawks QB Wilson will handle the pressure they didn't even touch the Sherman rant.  I also failed to find anyone asking Manning about Sherman. I was way off.  :-p lol

To Emjaybee, Marti; hopefully you aren't feeling like I'm tryin to personally attack anyone or be rude. My intention is to represent a side of the argument that has been neglected by casual fans.  People (especially Christians) evaluated Sherman based on 20 seconds not on his life time of work and effort. They havnt researched the situation and they havnt listened to the last 2 weeks of shermans interviews. I also believe from the worlds view his actions have only benefited him and his team.

I'm not trying to say that his 20 second blurb was intentional in itself.  However Sherman has intentionally sought media attention, been competitively controversial and been confident/arrogant all season as a tactic to make money and take pressure off his team mates.

Here are some things people don't know.

1. The 49ers coach (harbaugh) was Sherman's college coach and he dogged Sherman to nfl coaches the year Sherman was getting drafted and he fell way down the draft boards because of Harbaugh's comments.

2. Sherman and Crabtree where a charity fundraiser in AZ with Kurt Warner together where Crabtree intentionally tried to start a fight with him and Sherman promise Crabtree he would embarrass him on the field not in a fight at a charity event.

3. This preseason Sherman got in a twitter battle with Darelle Revis about who was the best corner. This is part of the game and part of the way non skill position players have to get the recognition they deserve from the NFL, endorsement companies and contract negotiators. 

T.O.
Chad Johnson
Joey Porter
Deion Sanders
Jerry Rice
Joe Namath and so many more guys understood this and have used this tactic in the past.


Side note (explanation, does not equal full fledged support of his actions)

All Richard Sherman needed to do was give the choke sign to Cap, Harbaugh, and be done. I don't have a problem if he did just that. I have a problem with him slapping Crabtree on the butt and calling him out in an interview because he made himself look like a fool. I don't mind Richard Sherman thinking he is the best. I understand motivational thinking, however, when motivational thinking is expressed one can embarrass oneself. I am not going to judge Richard Sherman's reasons for doing what he did but either way he acted in a way that shed him in a negative light. Sherman might have been right in all of the things he said in the interview but that doesn't matter. Being diplomatic would have been better for his career.


FWIW, I am not celebrating Sherman's injury. His injury is simply refreshing. Much like David's victory over Goliath is refreshing. Richard Sherman did not "deserve" to be injured but hopefully now he will conduct himself in healthier ways and be a better role model for young athletes.

All Richard Sherman needed to do was give the choke sign to Cap, Harbaugh, and be done. I don't have a problem if he did just that. I have a problem with him slapping Crabtree on the butt and calling him out in an interview because he made himself look like a fool. I don't mind Richard Sherman thinking he is the best. I understand motivational thinking, however, when motivational thinking is expressed one can embarrass oneself. I am not going to judge Richard Sherman's reasons for doing what he did but either way he acted in a way that shed him in a negative light. Sherman might have been right in all of the things he said in the interview but that doesn't matter. Being diplomatic would have been better for his career.


FWIW, I am not celebrating Sherman's injury. His injury is simply refreshing. Much like David's victory over Goliath is refreshing. Richard Sherman did not "deserve" to be injured but hopefully now he will conduct himself in healthier ways and be a better role model for young athletes.

Conduct himself in healthier ways? he plays a sport where 200-300 pound dudes slam in to each other for your entertainment, and you can say you aren't celebrating his injury but by calling it refreshing your taking some form of satisfaction in it. He's has a Master's degree from one of the best colleges in the world, he donates millions to charity, and he's not a role model because someone stuck a microphone in his face while he was fired up? Okay.

Though it was close to me, I would say Turbo Tax won the commercial bowl.  Doritos were great but they had to use two commercials to beat Turbo tax.  The downside was that they kept getting interrupted by the Seahawks' practices .