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Open Forum => Off-Topic => Sports => Topic started by: stefferweffer on March 19, 2012, 01:43:12 PM
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Am I the only one feeling sorry for Tebow here? He helps take a team to the playoffs, and they go and get a guy who was injured the entire previous season and pay him almost $100 million over 5 years!
I believe Peyton to be an honorable guy. I guess it's not his fault. But I have gone from being a big John Elway fan when I was a kid to being at the point where I can't stand him.
My biggest hope of all is that Tim Tebow will go to another team and take that team all the way to the superbowl. On the flipside, Peyton is one injury away from being out for good. I certainly don't want bad things to happen to anyone. I just won't be surprised if it does in this case. I really thought Peyton's best move would have been to retire at the top of his game. Now it seems he will retire 4-5 years from now (if he makes it that long), just a fraction of the great player that he once was :(
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Well to be fair, Peyton has a history of being a better quarterback. Peyton has experience that Tebow lacks. As much as I love Tim Tebow, Peyton is the better choice for now.
Let's weigh Tebow against Peyton.
Money Making level:
Tebow has a cult like following, making fans out of people who don't know a thing about football = lots of $$$
Peyton Manning is one of the most notable quarterbacks in the league, and is on a huge comeback = At leas as much if not more $$$.
Character Level:
Tebow is Christian and lives like one = Outstanding Character
Peyton has been known as one of the most classy guys in the league = Almost as good a Tebow
Player Level:
Tebow needs to work on getting better, he's not a bad QB but he's not a great one. = Eh so so
Peyton has proven to be a great QB, but will the injury hinder him = Maybe good maybe so so
Experience level:
Tebow has very little experience = yeah well not much else to say
Peyton has tons of experience = He's actually won a superbowl
Leadership Skills:
Tebow, has good leadership skills but he's still young. = Good for Tebow.
Peyton has some of the best leadership skills of any player in the league = Awesome for Peyton.
At the end of the day Peyton is the better choice, however if another injury the Broncos may regret their decision. I think that Tebow will see play wherever he goes because he excites the fan base so much. I'm fine with it because I understand the though process of John Elway here.
Blessings,
Wings
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Ya gotta be kiddin' me?! The 49ers couldn't pull of the "M" trifecta of Moss, Manningham, and Manning?!?
???
(Why is it I feel this gnawing sensation that Goodell was involved?)
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I wouldn't feel too sorry for Tebow. He will likely end up in Jacksonville, right back where he made his fame as a Florida Gator. The fans will fill the stands to see Tebow, which is not a normal sight in Jax stadium.
I feel sorry for the millions of fans who bought Tebow Bronco jerseys. :o
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Why Denver? Peyton is used to and succeeds in controlled enviroments(Domes). He played a majority of his games inside and in cold weather enviroments wasn't as successful in incliment weather to my recollection. I would've thought he have chosen an enviroment that is snow/cold free. Maybe Denver has better pieces in place(Not rebuilding).
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Regardless of what you think of Tebow if you have a chance to get Peyton Manning you go get Peyton Manning. It's Peyton Manning. You saw last year just how good he makes a team. Playoff team with him, worst record in the NFL without him. Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Phillip Rivers, Big Ben, and maybe Tony Romo are the only QBs in the NFL that are good enough that you don't at least consider picking Manning up if you can get him.
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Peyton would be the best QB in the NFL in recent years if not for Brady. Peyton will bring in more fans and more money than Tebow ever will.
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I lol'd so hard...
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Steffer, why you hatin' on Manning? He's one of the best QBs of the past 15 years and he's still got the desire to play. He certainly has the skill level.
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Regardless of what you think of Tebow if you have a chance to get Peyton Manning you go get Peyton Manning. It's Peyton Manning. You saw last year just how good he makes a team. Playoff team with him, worst record in the NFL without him. Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Phillip Rivers, Big Ben, and maybe Tony Romo are the only QBs in the NFL that are good enough that you don't at least consider picking Manning up if you can get him.
I love how you say 'Maybe Tony Romo' but don't mention Drew Brees...... or Matthew Stafford.
Both of them are better QB's than Romo.
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Lol how did I forget them...come to think of it I also forgot Matt Ryan...sorry about that (although i would take manning over stafford because of his injury issues)
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Lol how did I forget them...come to think of it I also forgot Matt Ryan...sorry about that (although i would take manning over stafford because of his injury issues)
I wouldn't put Matt Ryan in that group. He's not bad, but considering the weapons around him, I remain underwhelmed.
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I'd still probably end up going with manning, but it would be a decision as apposed to Tebow were the answer is pretty clear.
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Those of us here in Texas will gladly trade Romo for Tebow. Maybe,just maybe we could win a SB with him.
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Those of us here in Texas will gladly trade Romo for Tebow. Maybe,just maybe we could win a SB with him.
You crazy Cowboy fans, the only QB I've seen come close to the dominating prowess of Aaron Rodgers is Tony Romo.
I understand your frustration though, because Romo tends to offsets those moments of brilliance with moments of stupidity.
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Cowboys fans are so spoiled...I'd kill for Tony Romo, your problem has little to do with your QB and everything to do with Jerry Jones and your defense.
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You crazy Cowboy fans, the only QB I've seen come close to the dominating prowess of Aaron Rodgers is Tony Romo.
You're the one who must be crazy. ;)
My current short list would include Brady, Rodgers, Brees and Manning (if he is healthy enough to last the whole season). You have to be able to take your team all the way, as well as put up the impressive numbers, otherwise you have another Dan Fouts.
I understand your frustration though, because Romo tends to offsets those moments of brilliance with moments of stupidity.
Dave Kreig was the previous version of Tony Romo.
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Those of us here in Texas will gladly trade Romo for Tebow. Maybe,just maybe we could win a SB with him.
You crazy Cowboy fans, the only QB I've seen come close to the dominating prowess of Aaron Rodgers is Tony Romo.
I'd trade Romo for Rodgers in a heartbeat.
Cowboys fans are so spoiled...I'd kill for Tony Romo, your problem has little to do with your QB and everything to do with Jerry Jones and your defense.
Yeah, our defense was so bad in some games last year, it was pathetic. Definitely time for a new D-coordinator. Maybe try to bring Wade Phillips back.
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Yeah, if we could get rid of the owner/CEO/gm of the Cupcakes,the RHG and Romo-the Cupcakes would probably regain the title of Americas Team. And win a SB to boot. Oh,an for the record,I despise the Cowboys.
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Off topic, but considering this is the most recent football thread....
I'm getting some sort of sick joy out of what is happening to the Saints. ESPECIALLY considering I'm a Vikings fan.
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Yeah, our defense was so bad in some games last year, it was pathetic. Definitely time for a new D-coordinator. Maybe try to bring Wade Phillips back.
Maybe the Cowboys should switch to standalones...
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Off topic, but considering this is the most recent football thread....
I'm getting some sort of sick joy out of what is happening to the Saints. ESPECIALLY considering I'm a Vikings fan.
Yeah, Schadenfreude has been quite applicable to my state of mind regarding the NFL of late as well. Now we can say "Well, we didn't win a Super Bowl, but at least we didn't pay players to try to kill the opponents."
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The broncos were so desperate to win a super bowl they brought in manning and sacrificed a virgin
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Tim is going to New York now?! And the hate is already starting :(
Tim, you are in our prayers. New York needs you in more ways than they know.
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New York definitely did not need to bring in Tebow, the biggest complaint against Mark Sanchez was his lack of leadership and confidence so now you bring in Tebow, who is a great leader, and is also one of the most polarizing figures in all of sports. I'm sure the Tebow chant's half way through the first preseason game will REALLY boost Mark's confidence. He should've gone to Jacksonville, they could've worked the home town hero angle to death and actually sold out a home game for once.
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Agreed, there was a lot more money to be made in Jacksonville.
If I'm Mark Sanchez I'm I'm not very happy right now.
If I'm the jets offensive coordinator however, I'm quite happy right now. Having Tebow allows the offensive coordinator to run two QB packages which is a nightmare for defensive coordinators. Since the Jet's offensive coordinator already likes to run the wildcat, Tebow is a good option for that particular offense. Of course this is all in theory what's in the locker room will probably throw off the 'in theory part' that I just mentioned, and the Jets will slip back in to ineffectiveness.
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The problem is going to come when Sanchez inevitably loses a game and we'll end up with the same thing that ran Orton out of Denver, especially in a place like NY where they are already pretty hostile to their own players. I'd be surprised if the Jets make it out of the preseason without hearing the Tebow chants.
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You're probably right... But it'll be an interesting to see what ultimately happens.
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The rumors flying out of the Jets locker room for the past year has been that Sanchez has a poor work ethic in practice, which ticks off other players. So bringing in Tebow is not going to ruin any team chemistry. However, this does appear to be an attempt to push Sanchez, especially since they just extended Sanchez' contract. They didn't give up much for Tebow, so he is the one who is expendable.
Jacksonville was definitely a better fit, and I am quite surprised that the Jaguars did not offer more than a 4th-round pick. Tebow's contract seems to have been the problem ($5 million clause for the Broncos, seriously?). I wonder if Tebow himself knew that his contract said that. Still, the revenue that Tebow's presence would have brought to a Florida team would have easily exceeded $5 million in his first year.
In the end, for that kind of clause money, there weren't many teams that could afford to pick Tebow up. All the other teams with that kind of money to spare already had franchise QBs.
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I understand wanting to push him but bringing in the Circus that comes with Tim Tebow is not going to be good for a team that is already pretty divided. This also is going to make Drew Stanton very unhappy, when they signed him to be the new backup they promised that they were not looking to bring in another QB.
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If things get squirrelly in NY, Goodell can just bring out his 'Suspend Hammer'. ;)
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Yep Stanton wants out.
The Daily News has learned that Stanton would prefer to be released or traded after the team acquired Tim Tebow on Wednesday. Stanton, who spent four seasons with the Lions, signed a one-year, $1.25 million deal that included a $500,000 signing bonus last week. He would also be amenable to a trade, according to a source.
This is also in shaky ground on the poor taste-o-meter
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This is also in shaky ground on the poor taste-o-meter
LOL at the New York Post having taste. ;) I preferred reading the New York Times.....
I understand wanting to push him but bringing in the Circus that comes with Tim Tebow is not going to be good for a team that is already pretty divided.
I don't disagree with you. This situation is not good for anybody. This will be very ugly in just a few months.